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Old 10-03-2011 | 12:47 AM
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Default Non-Miata: 225s on a 6.5" wheel?

DD needs new tires. Found a good deal on 225/55-16, stock size is 205/60-16. Currently have 215/55-16, with hardly any sidewall bulge.

I'm not looking for extreme handling or awesome response, we're headed into a 9 month rainy season. I want decent straight line grip, both for acceleration and braking. Currently spinning tires even with a 2nd gear start. Open diff+FWD+rain+bald tires=fail.

Stupid idea?
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Old 10-03-2011 | 11:55 AM
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Anyone? Boring question? Bueller? Fry?
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If it's mainly wet performance you're after, I'd go with a narrower tire.
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To avoid hydroplaning?
Old 10-03-2011 | 01:34 PM
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I dont know how a 215 isn't bulging on a 6.5, I had 205's on a 6.5 and they were looking meaty as hell on my mini cooper bbs rims.
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Surprised me too but that's what the manual says. Oem wheel, do they like to under rate wheels? 215 looks pretty flat to me and 205s looked like pansy *** tires.
Old 10-03-2011 | 02:23 PM
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HA! Verified here:
http://originalwheels.com/mitsubishi...er2008rims.php

I'm not drunk, am I? Those 215s I have on currently do look fairly flat, do they not? That's why I first considered 225s, since 215s looked so flat, I figured I had a 7 or 7.5" rim. 6.5" surprised the hell out of me.
Old 10-03-2011 | 02:25 PM
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A lot of AP1 S2000 guys run 225's on their front 6.5 inch wheel. I went through a couple sets and didn't have any problems.
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Must be that specific tire that isn't very wide? Not all "225s" are created equal. What model is that tire and what do the mfg specs for that specific one say the tread width and suggested wheel width is?
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Discontinued Hankook K106 I think. The tires I got are another Hankook, essentially this tire's successor.
Old 10-11-2011 | 08:11 PM
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Whats you price range on tires?

It will work, and Ive done worse in both directions, 315 on a 9 and 225 on a 10.5. I dont really reccomend it though. Your best bet instead of buying a tire based on price in a diff size, just buy a good tire in the right size, and it will pay off.

Something like a Michelin Hydroedge will be great in the rain and they last for ******* ever. Had quite a few sets go over 100k. I dont like having to worry about the DD so when I fix it i just pony up then i dont have to worry abot it forever.

I did LTX M/Ss on the truck last time it needed tires. Paid out the *** for them but they currently have 110K on them and have 5/32nds left. They are quiet, comfortable, i drove them in nasty rain, sunshine and even a little snow, havent even had to think about tires for years.
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Well the ones I was after were out of stock, an "old" hankook model for $77:


wear rate of 420, which is creeping up there, I don't want a rock for a tire. I was offered the "new" model for the same price:


Which I probably should have gone for since it's a good deal, but it was up at a 500 wear rate. Again, should have gone for this deal, it's my DD and that's a great deal on those tires.

Ended up getting the Falken ZE-502, which has a wear rating of 300. Probably way too low, but I'm not burning rubber, and my commute is 17 miles, 10 of which are freeway. These were $84 a pop.


I'm a little worried about reviews saying they get noisy, but we'll see. I DD'd a stripped Miata for over a year. As long as they last longer than 22,500 miles like the OEM tires, I'll be happy. My current Hankooks lasted 50,000 miles which I'm incredibly happy with, and would be plenty comfortable leaving them on for another summer, but alas, it's Oregon's 9 month rainy season.

So after shipping it came out to $372, and should be about $70 for mount/balance at Goodyear, the cheapest I've found around here. $440 for brand new tires, I'll take it. I did go to Les Schwab to just get an idea for tire prices, and the only similar tire was Toyo's Proxxes 4. Would of loved those but they were out of stock at onlinetires.com, who had them listed for $99. So that would be $432+$70, or $502 for mounted and balanced Proxxes 4s. Les Schwab's total? $732. No thanks.
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Still look great!?! Don't look anti-stretched too much at all, I'm happy.





That 2nd picture appears to have an under inflated tire, I'll look into that.
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Not sure you can really equate treadwear ratings to how a tire sticks. Compounds and technology improve constantly. Case in point, on my G8 I replaced Goodyear RS-A's (treadwear of 260 -- and one of the greasiest tires I've ever driven) with Michelin Pilot Super Sports (treadwear of 300 -- and currently TireRack's grand champion Summer tire).

Hope those tires last for you.
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I know, and I'm sure the temperature ratings have something to do with it as well, but I figured wear ratings was a decent indication of how hard a tire is, even if it's just a rough estimate. I figure if my old 320AA went 50,000 miles with another ~5,000 in dry miles in them, then the new 300AA would last at least 40,000 miles, which is all I really want.

I also figure that I'd be annoyed and frustrated with 500AA tires.
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