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Old 11-30-2021 | 07:52 PM
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Question [NA] Is a 205 tire wide enough with 200+whp?

I have a 91 with a 1.8 swap, flying miata turbo kit, and countless other upgrades (including a 97 lsd swap). Making around 230whp, I am currently running old all season Falken tires at 205/50 on a 15/x8 wheel. It's been good for sliding around, however I want to start actually driving the car more and putting the power down, but I lose traction constantly. This is for 98% street use. Given I don't have a working ABS or anything of that nature, its getting a little dangerous feeling, I have to constantly be especially careful with the throttle.

I wanted to pickup some Falken RT660s in 225/45-15 however discount tire won't allow me to purchase them online (not an appropriate size they say for the car). I also have a molded widebody so there is some extra room under the fenders.

So my question is, would a 205 tire (say the ECS) have enough traction for my use case and greatly limit the slipping, or do I need a 225 with 200tw? I live in a very hot place with little to no rain.
Old 11-30-2021 | 08:01 PM
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Without knowing exactly which tire you currently have, then we cant say whether the ECS is an upgrade at all.

I would blindly recommend 225/45 or 245/40/15 200tw for street use at that power.
Old 11-30-2021 | 08:50 PM
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First, I'd start with a 225 size tire, I think you'd easily overpower a 205.

Second, screw Discount Tire. Buy the tires from Tire Rack and use one of their recommended installers.

I bought 245s from TR and did what I mentioned above. After the fact, the folks at the local Discount Tire told me they would have sold and mounted the 245s if I came in and asked. I told them that they're losing customers because of their stupid policies.
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245/40/15 on 15x9 at minimum. Rolled fenders and you can sorta squeeze onto 15x9.5. 15x10 fastest and best handling but requires flares.
225/45/15 on 15x9 an easy fit but your car could definitely use 245's. That's why we asked Maxxis to make them a decade ago when we started making 15x10's.
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Old 11-30-2021 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by doward

I would blindly recommend 225/45 or 245/40/15 200tw for street use at that power.
Thank you!

Originally Posted by rwyatt365
First, I'd start with a 225 size tire, I think you'd easily overpower a 205.

Second, screw Discount Tire. Buy the tires from Tire Rack and use one of their recommended installers.

I bought 245s from TR and did what I mentioned above. After the fact, the folks at the local Discount Tire told me they would have sold and mounted the 245s if I came in and asked. I told them that they're losing customers because of their stupid policies.
You're right, I just wanted to use them so the tires could be shipped directly to their store, so it's easier. I'll call them and ask if I fudge my car online, if they will install them. If not, tire rack it is!

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245/40/15 on 15x9 at minimum. Rolled fenders and you can sorta squeeze onto 15x9.5. 15x10 fastest and best handling but requires flares.
225/45/15 on 15x9 an easy fit but your car could definitely use 245's. That's why we asked Maxxis to make them a decade ago when we started making 15x10's.
I have molded widebody fenders already, so it shouldn't be a problem regardless. Does a 15x9 support 225s better than a 15x8?
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Originally Posted by thechase
I have molded widebody fenders already, so it shouldn't be a problem regardless. Does a 15x9 support 225s better than a 15x8?
To get the most grip from any radial, follow our 1:1 rule: Wheel should be at least as wide as measured tread width.
So specifically, yes, 225's are faster on 9's
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Old 11-30-2021 | 09:49 PM
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Tirerack will ship to who ever you want, to have them installed even if they aren't listed. Makes it very easy.
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As a local independent tire store owner, TireRack is both a blessing and a curse. They do an exceptional job at competing against their dealers and preferred installers.

shop local, there’s probably an enthusiast from a local car club working behind a chain store counter or running an Indy shop.
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