Suspension, Brakes, Drivetrain discuss the wondrous effects of boost and your miata...
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

tranny gurus, click here (also, if you're good with transmissions take a look)

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-12-2009 | 07:22 PM
  #1  
Savington's Avatar
Thread Starter
Former Vendor
iTrader: (31)
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 15,442
Total Cats: 2,104
From: Sunnyvale, CA
Default tranny gurus, click here (also, if you're good with transmissions take a look)

I missed 6th gear this weekend and found the reverse gate in a big way doing about 130mph at Big Willow yesterday, resulting in a big, loud, nasty tranny grind. New seating position is still screwing with me a little. I changed my shift motion and didn't do it for the rest of the day, but now the car will not go into reverse at all - engine on, engine off, rolling backwards, nothing.

What did I break inside the tranny? 6-speeds aren't cheap, so I'm going to dismantle it and fix whatever I broke (and maybe freshen up the synchros while I'm in there).
Old 10-12-2009 | 08:27 PM
  #2  
Oscar's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 3,022
Total Cats: 120
From: Bolton, UK
Default

1st thru 6th are still ok? Reverse lock-out jammed/damaged?
Old 10-12-2009 | 08:37 PM
  #3  
Savington's Avatar
Thread Starter
Former Vendor
iTrader: (31)
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 15,442
Total Cats: 2,104
From: Sunnyvale, CA
Default

1st through 6th are perfect. The reverse spring still works. It goes into the gate just like normal, and then drops back halfway, but won't engage the gear. I can let the clutch out, rev the motor, etc. and nothing will let me engage it.
Old 10-12-2009 | 10:06 PM
  #4  
cueball1's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,875
Total Cats: 2
From: Tigard, Oregon
Default

Was reverse gone immediately at the track or did you check fluid looking for metal and lose it then?
Old 10-12-2009 | 10:08 PM
  #5  
Savington's Avatar
Thread Starter
Former Vendor
iTrader: (31)
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 15,442
Total Cats: 2,104
From: Sunnyvale, CA
Default

Reverse was gone immediately. I went to back out of my spot for the 2nd session and the car wouldn't go into reverse.
Old 10-12-2009 | 10:17 PM
  #6  
cueball1's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,875
Total Cats: 2
From: Tigard, Oregon
Default

Obviously I'm no guru. Did some quick searching at mnet. Found three threads in the last year with that problem on 6 speeds. Two were broken forks with exactly the symptoms you describe. All forward gears perfect, no reverse.
Old 10-12-2009 | 10:29 PM
  #7  
Savington's Avatar
Thread Starter
Former Vendor
iTrader: (31)
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 15,442
Total Cats: 2,104
From: Sunnyvale, CA
Default

Cool. Looks like I'll be opening it up and looking for a shift fork problem.
Old 10-12-2009 | 10:36 PM
  #8  
cueball1's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,875
Total Cats: 2
From: Tigard, Oregon
Default

Wishing it was something external instead of internal. You've had that car apart enough already.

Reason I asked about checking the fluid. Apparently it's easy to mistakenly remove a bolt where the 5 speed drain plug is instead of the actual drain plug in the 6 spd. Pull that bolt and a pin for the reverse linkage drops away inside. You are likely familiar with this. I'm saying it for future benefit if others have reverse problems and look to this thread for help.
Old 10-12-2009 | 11:42 PM
  #9  
TurboTim's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 6,943
Total Cats: 404
From: Chesterfield, NJ
Default

Damn that sucks Sav :(
Old 10-13-2009 | 12:32 AM
  #10  
Savington's Avatar
Thread Starter
Former Vendor
iTrader: (31)
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 15,442
Total Cats: 2,104
From: Sunnyvale, CA
Default

Originally Posted by cueball1
Wishing it was something external instead of internal. You've had that car apart enough already.

Heh. I was wishing it was something external like 6-year olds wish to see the tooth fairy leave them $100. Nice thought, but

I'm going to have the tranny out for a clutch job this month anyway (upgrading from my ACT HD to a 949 twin-disc) so it's not a huge deal, I guess.
Old 10-13-2009 | 02:18 AM
  #11  
MartinezA92's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 1,784
Total Cats: 42
From: Redwood City, CA
Default

At least you didn't blow your forward gears. Who needs reverse.
Old 10-13-2009 | 01:19 PM
  #12  
cueball1's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,875
Total Cats: 2
From: Tigard, Oregon
Default

Originally Posted by Savington
Heh. I was wishing it was something external like 6-year olds wish to see the tooth fairy leave them $100. Nice thought, but .
One of the "I can't get into reverse" threads at Mnet turned out to be one of the bushings under the shifter. Not external but the next best thing to it. Those symptoms weren't as dead on as the one broken tine on the fork analysis though. I was hoping that was your issue. I'm also hoping the Great Pumpkin stops by my garden later this month.
Old 10-22-2009 | 12:49 AM
  #13  
cueball1's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,875
Total Cats: 2
From: Tigard, Oregon
Default

Any update? If you tore into it what did you find.
Old 03-16-2010 | 04:40 AM
  #14  
Savington's Avatar
Thread Starter
Former Vendor
iTrader: (31)
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 15,442
Total Cats: 2,104
From: Sunnyvale, CA
Default

Necro as ****, but I wanted to give an update (was looking for something else I posted forever ago). The reverse gear, synchro, and slider all were fucked up, and the 5/R shift fork bushings was slid out of place as well. The fork bushing has probably been like that for a while, the rest of it I did with my mis-shift. Replaced the 4 parts and it's back to normal now. Cost me $350 in labor and $250 in parts.
Old 03-16-2010 | 08:48 AM
  #15  
stranges12712's Avatar
Junior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 431
Total Cats: 2
From: Niagara Falls, ON
Default

I have seen some reverse gears grinded down from not stoping and shifting into reverse while moving, and it only goes half into gear and you grind the **** out of it because it is straight cut. But i doubt you do that.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Full_Tilt_Boogie
Build Threads
84
04-12-2021 05:21 PM
Quinn
Cars for sale/trade
6
10-23-2016 08:58 AM
Rick02R
WTB
3
01-03-2016 08:18 PM
ScrapinMX5
Meet and Greet
8
09-28-2015 02:04 PM




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:14 AM.