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Yup, 6UL is lighter, stronger and it looks WAY better IMO - no doubt the cheap posers will want to save a couple bucks even though it is an inferior wheel.
You can also drop a 3-4 lbs on each front corners by ditching the pig-heavy stock calipers and brackets and switching to some wilwood calipers and 2 piece rotors.
You can also drop a 3-4 lbs on each front corners by ditching the pig-heavy stock calipers and brackets and switching to some wilwood calipers and 2 piece rotors.
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OK so TR has copied the fitment but not the design, is cheaper, but a lot heavier. 949 still has the corner on the market for width/weight.
I like Emilio a lot too, but I don't think TR "ripped him off".
In many business cases, when one comes up with a new idea, the way to make money is to sell as many as possible until the cheaper copycats come along. I hope Emilio's made a ton of money, he deserves it.
Anyone who makes a ton of money by producing a product that has a better price/performance ratio than the competition, which customers voluntarily and happily buy, deserves the money. This is the essence of Free Market Capitalism. I don't care if Emilio uses the money to support his racing habit, or buy hookers and blow, or he throws the dollar bills into his fireplace - that's his choice (as long as he doesn't hurt anyone with the money).
I like Emilio a lot too, but I don't think TR "ripped him off".
In many business cases, when one comes up with a new idea, the way to make money is to sell as many as possible until the cheaper copycats come along. I hope Emilio's made a ton of money, he deserves it.
Anyone who makes a ton of money by producing a product that has a better price/performance ratio than the competition, which customers voluntarily and happily buy, deserves the money. This is the essence of Free Market Capitalism. I don't care if Emilio uses the money to support his racing habit, or buy hookers and blow, or he throws the dollar bills into his fireplace - that's his choice (as long as he doesn't hurt anyone with the money).
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i love how you guys are talking about a gain in unsprung weight. compared to what? if i already had 6ul's i wouldn't be looking at tr's. i'm guessing that most people interested in these have normal wheels which weigh 13-15lbs or more already. maybe i'm dropping 1-2 lbs. per wheel compared to my old ones and getting a 9" wide wheel in the process. also, it's already been tested, width makes a bigger difference than weight, unless your talkin' about 20lb. wheels or something.
and to be honest, if i were going for looks, it wouldn't be either the tr or 6uls.
hell even the new sportmax (xxr) 522's look way better than both of these imho.
EDIT: lol, in for the hookers and blow! emilio knows how to party!
and to be honest, if i were going for looks, it wouldn't be either the tr or 6uls.
hell even the new sportmax (xxr) 522's look way better than both of these imho.
EDIT: lol, in for the hookers and blow! emilio knows how to party!
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I'd be afraid to get these TR wheels for track days based solely on the disdain and ridicule I would bring upon myself by showing up to a track day with other miatas present with the TR wheels on my car. At this point, a 15x9 TR wheel-wearing miata could set a new top time at a track and everyone else would probably disregard it because the car's owner is a sellout.
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I'd be afraid to get these TR wheels for track days based solely on the disdain and ridicule I would bring upon myself by showing up to a track day with other miatas present with the TR wheels on my car. At this point, a 15x9 TR wheel-wearing miata could set a new top time at a track and everyone else would probably disregard it because the car's owner is a sellout.
Not surprising.. you people in CA are indeed that shallow
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I'd rock the TRs...just because I like how they look. I don't get why anyone is bitching about the color...for the price, ******* spray paint the damn things to whatever gay rainbow you want.
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Much smarter to make it 245/40-15 so the diameter would be right. I expect the size to come out in a full R-comp first, from someone like BFG or Hoosier. That's where you're going to see experiments on low volume numbers like this. I know the BFG molds are modular, so they could pretty easily make it based on the 205/50-15 stuff, but they aren't really into risks. Hoosier obviously is willing to get crazy. They are doing the 275 now, and they were the first to do the 225/45-15.
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I don't really get this either, if you like them you like them if you don't I can't imagine why you would even care about them. The wheels are just another option for those of us that just haven't been able to swing a set of UL, or anything else. I think they look fine, however I prefer my paid for Kosei's more.
I don't really get this either, if you like them you like them if you don't I can't imagine why you would even care about them. The wheels are just another option for those of us that just haven't been able to swing a set of UL, or anything else. I think they look fine, however I prefer my paid for Kosei's more.
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Much smarter to make it 245/40-15 so the diameter would be right. I expect the size to come out in a full R-comp first, from someone like BFG or Hoosier. That's where you're going to see experiments on low volume numbers like this. I know the BFG molds are modular, so they could pretty easily make it based on the 205/50-15 stuff, but they aren't really into risks. Hoosier obviously is willing to get crazy. They are doing the 275 now, and they were the first to do the 225/45-15.
I'll bet a large part of Emilios sales go to guys who will never track their car. Hell, that's what my 6ULs are for.
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which are cheaper 6ul's or tr's? lol jk
if i wanted track wheels id buy 6ul's no doubt. if i wanted dd'ing wheels id stick with the tr motorsports. i think thats whats going to happen really with most people. good luck in future sales emilio, no sarcasm here. i hate big businesses taking other smaller businesses ideas.
if i wanted track wheels id buy 6ul's no doubt. if i wanted dd'ing wheels id stick with the tr motorsports. i think thats whats going to happen really with most people. good luck in future sales emilio, no sarcasm here. i hate big businesses taking other smaller businesses ideas.