Tecna Coilovers @ Supermiata
#61
Yeah, the bilsteins were stiff feeling but then just kind of all over the place on any mid corner bumps.
Got the Tecna in, first impressions are good. Had them set at 15 from full stiff as a starting point with the sport springs. I softened them up in a few steps and am going to be trying 6 clicks from full soft on my commute tomorrow (I ran the Xida soft as well). On the smaller road imperfections, they are amazing, not quite as butter as the xida were on those, but very close. Throwing them into mid corner drain grates and such, they are far and above better than anything else I have driven on that are not the Xida.
So, so far, my only complaint boils down to "Well, they aren't Xida". The back end almost feels like it is launching in the air over larger sharp bumps as well, but the back end of my car is heavy and currently sitting 1/4" or so below the front (I just left the preload where it was out of the box for the first drive, I will fiddle with it tomorrow evening.)
Overall, for the price, I am very impressed, build quality is fantastic as well compared to most other coilovers I have handled (again, just one step below the Xida, but we all expect that). I will commute on them the next few days (8 miles of traffic on the freeway, then progressively smaller back mountain roads from there. It will be a good test.)
Got the Tecna in, first impressions are good. Had them set at 15 from full stiff as a starting point with the sport springs. I softened them up in a few steps and am going to be trying 6 clicks from full soft on my commute tomorrow (I ran the Xida soft as well). On the smaller road imperfections, they are amazing, not quite as butter as the xida were on those, but very close. Throwing them into mid corner drain grates and such, they are far and above better than anything else I have driven on that are not the Xida.
So, so far, my only complaint boils down to "Well, they aren't Xida". The back end almost feels like it is launching in the air over larger sharp bumps as well, but the back end of my car is heavy and currently sitting 1/4" or so below the front (I just left the preload where it was out of the box for the first drive, I will fiddle with it tomorrow evening.)
Overall, for the price, I am very impressed, build quality is fantastic as well compared to most other coilovers I have handled (again, just one step below the Xida, but we all expect that). I will commute on them the next few days (8 miles of traffic on the freeway, then progressively smaller back mountain roads from there. It will be a good test.)
#62
In long,
very yes.
Your situation/use case is exactly why we did these. Lots of people in your shoes buy Xidas and just deal with the occasional maintenance, but we know there are tons of people out there who just want something that rides awesome, handles great, affordably priced, and you don't have to mess with it. Up until now the closest you could get to that was with DIY Billies - all the other options just don't have the stroke to properly dispatch big bumps on street. That's why we obsessed over the details of maximizing stroke, using a really long spring pack for a wide ride height adjustment range, careful valving, etc. Frankly for your use case, these are a better fit than Xidas.
very yes.
Your situation/use case is exactly why we did these. Lots of people in your shoes buy Xidas and just deal with the occasional maintenance, but we know there are tons of people out there who just want something that rides awesome, handles great, affordably priced, and you don't have to mess with it. Up until now the closest you could get to that was with DIY Billies - all the other options just don't have the stroke to properly dispatch big bumps on street. That's why we obsessed over the details of maximizing stroke, using a really long spring pack for a wide ride height adjustment range, careful valving, etc. Frankly for your use case, these are a better fit than Xidas.
I was sold at maximum stroke! Thanks for these!!
#63
Yeah, the bilsteins were stiff feeling but then just kind of all over the place on any mid corner bumps.
Got the Tecna in, first impressions are good. Had them set at 15 from full stiff as a starting point with the sport springs. I softened them up in a few steps and am going to be trying 6 clicks from full soft on my commute tomorrow (I ran the Xida soft as well). On the smaller road imperfections, they are amazing, not quite as butter as the xida were on those, but very close. Throwing them into mid corner drain grates and such, they are far and above better than anything else I have driven on that are not the Xida.
So, so far, my only complaint boils down to "Well, they aren't Xida". The back end almost feels like it is launching in the air over larger sharp bumps as well, but the back end of my car is heavy and currently sitting 1/4" or so below the front (I just left the preload where it was out of the box for the first drive, I will fiddle with it tomorrow evening.)
Overall, for the price, I am very impressed, build quality is fantastic as well compared to most other coilovers I have handled (again, just one step below the Xida, but we all expect that). I will commute on them the next few days (8 miles of traffic on the freeway, then progressively smaller back mountain roads from there. It will be a good test.)
Got the Tecna in, first impressions are good. Had them set at 15 from full stiff as a starting point with the sport springs. I softened them up in a few steps and am going to be trying 6 clicks from full soft on my commute tomorrow (I ran the Xida soft as well). On the smaller road imperfections, they are amazing, not quite as butter as the xida were on those, but very close. Throwing them into mid corner drain grates and such, they are far and above better than anything else I have driven on that are not the Xida.
So, so far, my only complaint boils down to "Well, they aren't Xida". The back end almost feels like it is launching in the air over larger sharp bumps as well, but the back end of my car is heavy and currently sitting 1/4" or so below the front (I just left the preload where it was out of the box for the first drive, I will fiddle with it tomorrow evening.)
Overall, for the price, I am very impressed, build quality is fantastic as well compared to most other coilovers I have handled (again, just one step below the Xida, but we all expect that). I will commute on them the next few days (8 miles of traffic on the freeway, then progressively smaller back mountain roads from there. It will be a good test.)
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#64
We were over 2650. Car is somewhere between 2250 and 2300. And then me (another 230) and my girlfriend and some tools, along with the back end being heavy since I ditched the AC added a sound system and a roll bar (all weight in the back).
It's over 140mm pinch weld height without us in it, since the lift pads sung under it fine.
If that was getting into the bump stops I am impressed, it was not jarring at all.
It's over 140mm pinch weld height without us in it, since the lift pads sung under it fine.
If that was getting into the bump stops I am impressed, it was not jarring at all.
#67
Turns out they were at ~130F/127R, got some miles on them, adjusted the height to ~140F/146R and set them to 6 clicks from full soft. They just make the road vanish now unless it's a BIG bump/pothole. I am very impressed. Still need more miles for a proper review, but I already have decided they will be staying on the car and the Xidas will be moving on (the option was put the Xida back on this car and the Tecna on my beater NB if they didn't quite do everything I wanted).
#69
Ok got the preload reasonable. I had to increase 5 turns in front and 12 in back. I ran on setting 4 for 200 miles round trip, easily as comfortable as the stock kyb inserts I had before. We only got 3 practice rounds and I wasn't about to change the settings before elimination. Next week I should be able to try some different settings for launching. Seems like it might need to be a little stiffer for burnouts and launches .
#70
This looks like it has the potential to be a great product at a compelling price point.
Just to confirm: are these dampers linear or digressive? I'm not seeing any definitive documentation on the site or in this thread.
Also, I see that the next video is a tech deep-dive which may also answer this question.
Just to confirm: are these dampers linear or digressive? I'm not seeing any definitive documentation on the site or in this thread.
Also, I see that the next video is a tech deep-dive which may also answer this question.
Short version: Tecnas don't need digressive pistons
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#71
Ok got the preload reasonable. I had to increase 5 turns in front and 12 in back. I ran on setting 4 for 200 miles round trip, easily as comfortable as the stock kyb inserts I had before. We only got 3 practice rounds and I wasn't about to change the settings before elimination. Next week I should be able to try some different settings for launching. Seems like it might need to be a little stiffer for burnouts and launches .
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Last edited by emilio700; 04-13-2023 at 02:56 PM.
#72
I am going to get these dialed in. I imagine different settings for front and rear. I was watching my videos and I clearly need more damping in front, but I have only tried the 4th click all the way around. I am also not super confident about my pinch weld heights, my garage floor is crap. I weighed my car without me, but a full tank and tools 2416#'s in current form.
I love that Sac has a scale, but the thing is scary narrow, barely fits my car.
I love that Sac has a scale, but the thing is scary narrow, barely fits my car.
#73
I figured out the tossing inssue in the rear. It was caussed by me being a dumbass and setting one of the bushings up to bind. I changed the rear upper outter ones recently and tightened them at full droop when I put it back together, not realizing the reason I could get away with that onnthe old ones was they would slip and take out the preload after.....
Anyway! I am finding I need to run the shocks set a lot stiffer than I expect on these. But with a fairly heavy car, sport springs, and lots of bad bridge expansion joints, that seems to make sense. The poor thing gets really tossed aorund.
Anyway! I am finding I need to run the shocks set a lot stiffer than I expect on these. But with a fairly heavy car, sport springs, and lots of bad bridge expansion joints, that seems to make sense. The poor thing gets really tossed aorund.
#74
Ok just wanted to say that I have been loving these. I was able to hook decent 60' times on setting 10. The thing is still amazingly comfortable even at 12, the highest I have tried yet. I think the sweet spot for launching is somewhere around 9, 10, or 11, with street tires anyway.
Additionally I was blabbing about how well my car handles and puts the power down now. One of my friends, who worked for some car magazine years ago and seems to know everyone, said that I was the only person he ever heard say my street driven car is better after installing coilovers. He said everyone always says that they ruined their car. He doesn't know about Xidas either. But yes, you guys are the only ones he doesn't know.
Thanks again, I am a happy customer!
Additionally I was blabbing about how well my car handles and puts the power down now. One of my friends, who worked for some car magazine years ago and seems to know everyone, said that I was the only person he ever heard say my street driven car is better after installing coilovers. He said everyone always says that they ruined their car. He doesn't know about Xidas either. But yes, you guys are the only ones he doesn't know.
Thanks again, I am a happy customer!
#76
Love my Tecna Coilovers
I installed my tecna coilovers last week and aligned my car to Supermiata’s street specs. Then I headed off to Miata’s at the gap. All I can say is wow.
Wow, what I had was terrible.
Wow, I can’t imagine a better suspension for the money.
My car was nervous and easily unsettled by mid corner bumps with my old suspension. Now it’s supremely smooth and controlled. Don’t get me wrong big bumps are still big, but the car is way less effected by them and almost instantaneously settles back dow. It feels very direct and sure footed now. I was able to drive some serious miles on some great mountain roads and am very happy with my purchase of the Tecna coilovers. For my use case they are everything I was hoping for. Thanks Supermiata for producing an outstanding product for spirited mountain drives as well as the day to day drives.
Wow, what I had was terrible.
Wow, I can’t imagine a better suspension for the money.
My car was nervous and easily unsettled by mid corner bumps with my old suspension. Now it’s supremely smooth and controlled. Don’t get me wrong big bumps are still big, but the car is way less effected by them and almost instantaneously settles back dow. It feels very direct and sure footed now. I was able to drive some serious miles on some great mountain roads and am very happy with my purchase of the Tecna coilovers. For my use case they are everything I was hoping for. Thanks Supermiata for producing an outstanding product for spirited mountain drives as well as the day to day drives.
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