Preferred clutch for 250-ish BHP?
#42
Jeebus...
OK, let's rewind...
Someone early on asked why I didn't search. We did. We're pretty well versed in what FM has for this application, but wanted to see what "other" stuff is out there... I have an ACT clutch in the spec miata we're developing, so I'm aware of their product...
Some of you guys want to **** and moan like children for the sake of pissin' and moaning like children. For those of us who are just seeking relevent and pertinent info, please park the "'tudes" and just provide the info... You can spar with your buddies in PM, no really...
Mike
OK, let's rewind...
Someone early on asked why I didn't search. We did. We're pretty well versed in what FM has for this application, but wanted to see what "other" stuff is out there... I have an ACT clutch in the spec miata we're developing, so I'm aware of their product...
Some of you guys want to **** and moan like children for the sake of pissin' and moaning like children. For those of us who are just seeking relevent and pertinent info, please park the "'tudes" and just provide the info... You can spar with your buddies in PM, no really...
Mike
First, Your question asked for the general consensus on the preferred clutch for a turbo'd first gen Miata. You never said anything about your knowledge of the popular options, thus steering debate towards lesser-known alternatives. If you can't frame your question properly, you have no one to blame but yourself for the answers you get.
Second, a consensus is reached (or not) through the time-honoured tradition of debate. If you haven't noticed by now, this is one of the, ahem, more colourful boards. Discussions are usually lively and oftentimes acrimonious. If you want a modicum of decorum, there are more mainstream alternatives to frequent.
Third, there is actually a lot of information in this thread about the popular clutch options (some of which I bet you didn't know) plus the name of at least one lesser-known alternative. If you can't spend the time to read through two pages of a thread YOU started in order to cull the info you wanted, then you don't deserve the help.
And now back to our regular programming...
#45
As silly as it is, it's true. Even for myself I noticed it on this site (it's even worse on m.net). I guess it doesn't matter that I have like 4k posts on the GTR forum and 2k on the rx7 forum. And have been building cars since I was 14. It may not be a lot to your guy's standards, but I spend more time actually WORKING on my car rather than posting on the internet unless I have a question. lol..
#49
I prefer joining forums and asking questions that I should have searched for just to help create internet clutter. Then, I like to have a hissy-fit when people tell me that those questions have been answered already.
BTW Brain, I really wish my cat would do something like that if I put crap on his feet. He just flops over and chews on whatever I attach to him. Where is that gif from?
BTW Brain, I really wish my cat would do something like that if I put crap on his feet. He just flops over and chews on whatever I attach to him. Where is that gif from?
#54
#56
I don't know about this. Some guys pop up from time to time with like 2 posts that go into a build thread so slick it would easily make the front cover of any tuner magazine.
Then again, occasionally guys with 5682 posts that have been an M.net member since 2002 ask, "What's the difference between a turbo and a supercharger? lol. Discuss!"
Post count is not a reliable indicator of car building knowledge, IMHO.
Then again, occasionally guys with 5682 posts that have been an M.net member since 2002 ask, "What's the difference between a turbo and a supercharger? lol. Discuss!"
Post count is not a reliable indicator of car building knowledge, IMHO.
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One of the worst efforts of all time to do just that was when Hyper tried to claim he was knowledgeable and wise (despite clear evidence to the contrary) based on his post count. It was pretty laughable and quickly dismissed as a weak argument.
#58
ACT
I've run both the XT SS and the HD. HD engages very similar to stock, and the XT very nice once adjusted. I like mine to engage right off the floor, and I also like the harder pedal pressure. Nothing like trying to grab a gear without unsettling the rear end mid corner when you're jabbing your left foot into a bowl of Jell-O...
I too have driven many stock cars with higher pedal pressure than the ACT XT. Doesn't make it right per se, but just sayin'.
Now get this: Both ACTs I ran, the XT and the HD were used, and came of cars running at the top end of what stock rods can handle. They then proceeded to hold 200whp during my 150mile daily commute and abuse session for over a year, sans resurface, sans new disc.
The XT will actually soon see more life in yet a third turbo Miata.
EDIT: I'm almost convinced that post count is inversely proportional to real world car knowledge in the 200-2000 post range. Above that you're either an expert, a mod, don't have a life, or hustler. Below that your opinion, which may be valid and acceptable in the real world, is not supported by a sufficient body of posts to support it otherwise. No such thing as a resume in forumlandia.
I've run both the XT SS and the HD. HD engages very similar to stock, and the XT very nice once adjusted. I like mine to engage right off the floor, and I also like the harder pedal pressure. Nothing like trying to grab a gear without unsettling the rear end mid corner when you're jabbing your left foot into a bowl of Jell-O...
I too have driven many stock cars with higher pedal pressure than the ACT XT. Doesn't make it right per se, but just sayin'.
Now get this: Both ACTs I ran, the XT and the HD were used, and came of cars running at the top end of what stock rods can handle. They then proceeded to hold 200whp during my 150mile daily commute and abuse session for over a year, sans resurface, sans new disc.
The XT will actually soon see more life in yet a third turbo Miata.
EDIT: I'm almost convinced that post count is inversely proportional to real world car knowledge in the 200-2000 post range. Above that you're either an expert, a mod, don't have a life, or hustler. Below that your opinion, which may be valid and acceptable in the real world, is not supported by a sufficient body of posts to support it otherwise. No such thing as a resume in forumlandia.
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