NOOB wanting to start with Suspension
#26
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It was a silly type-o. In my understanding, the rollbar will effect the way your suspension is setup (spring rates) because it significantly will stiffen your chassis.
From following track threads and other build threads I've seen countless times the suspension (spring rates) needing to be changed because a different rollbar (or mild cage) was added.
I'm new to this but my approach was going to get a rollbar and work on other suspension components first, (stiffining the chassis) before getting coilovers or whatever so i can get the proper spring rates/setup for what i got instead of buying twice.
Please someone with more knowledge correct me if I'm wrong.
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LOL..
Aright, I'm no expert, this is just how I see it.
In this picture you can see how little there is between the front and rear axles.
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/suspension-brakes-drivetrain-49/78026-noob-wanting-start-suspension-50075004.jpg?dateline=1370044893)
I know.. NC.
To me, this is where Miatas and all other convertible have most of their chassis flex.
So, attaching a roll bar like the harddog, etc. does nothing to stiffen the actual problem. It's mounts are completely behind the door openings.
A car with a full cage..
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/suspension-brakes-drivetrain-49/78027-noob-wanting-start-suspension-miata_spec1_sm_2221_detail.jpg?dateline=1370044893)
Fills in the open gap, front to back, across the interior, boxing it in..
This will stiffen the chassis, not a roll bar.
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Just my 2 cents..
Mike
Aright, I'm no expert, this is just how I see it.
In this picture you can see how little there is between the front and rear axles.
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/suspension-brakes-drivetrain-49/78026-noob-wanting-start-suspension-50075004.jpg?dateline=1370044893)
I know.. NC.
To me, this is where Miatas and all other convertible have most of their chassis flex.
So, attaching a roll bar like the harddog, etc. does nothing to stiffen the actual problem. It's mounts are completely behind the door openings.
A car with a full cage..
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/suspension-brakes-drivetrain-49/78027-noob-wanting-start-suspension-miata_spec1_sm_2221_detail.jpg?dateline=1370044893)
Fills in the open gap, front to back, across the interior, boxing it in..
This will stiffen the chassis, not a roll bar.
![Falcon Punch](https://www.miataturbo.net/images/smilies/th_falcon_punch1.gif)
Just my 2 cents..
Mike
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I have raceland coilovers on my 91. They were on the car when I bought it. They go low and are very comfortable for daily driving and are a decent coilover for $350. However, they are only a good option when you just want to lower your daily I would not recommend them for any track use and I plan to upgrade before I start tracking. I have hit the canyons quite a bit in them and they feel quite sloppy in comparison to other coilovers I have had experience with.