MFactory upgraded gearsets
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I have asked MFactory to consider designing a stronger gearset for the Miata transmission. There would need to be a concensus of which trans and most desired gear set before anything can be moved forward on.
I believe that the 6 Speed trans is a better platform to start with due to what appears to be a more rigid case design, I would like to hear what others think.
The most common gripe about the 6 speed box is that it is too short, especially 1st gear. With the rather wide availablility of rear choices 3.6-4.7 one would likely be able to fix that if so desired.
The 5 speed trans is MUCH cheaper and abundant, is said to shift much smoother than its 6 speed counterpart and replacement parts are much cheaper and are more widely available.
I would like to hear what everyone else would like to have is possible and gauge interest before wasting anyones time or money.
Obviously MFactory will need to set prices but they will first need to know what everyone expects.
I believe that the 6 Speed trans is a better platform to start with due to what appears to be a more rigid case design, I would like to hear what others think.
The most common gripe about the 6 speed box is that it is too short, especially 1st gear. With the rather wide availablility of rear choices 3.6-4.7 one would likely be able to fix that if so desired.
The 5 speed trans is MUCH cheaper and abundant, is said to shift much smoother than its 6 speed counterpart and replacement parts are much cheaper and are more widely available.
I would like to hear what everyone else would like to have is possible and gauge interest before wasting anyones time or money.
Obviously MFactory will need to set prices but they will first need to know what everyone expects.
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So I don't want to be a debbie downer, but I am doubtful that this will go anywhere. Quaife had a "stronger" gear set for sale for a good while for the 5 speed. It was very expensive and eventually turned it out it was not much stronger then stock. FM dropped selling them due to issues. What I am trying to say is I am betting this will end up being far more expensive then expect, not as strong, and you probably won't get enough people willing to put up money up front to get them built. At least not at a price point that will make it competitive to the T5 setup that TSE is working on.
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This topic has been beaten to death. Tons and tons of discussions of what appropriate gear ratios look like and what the current issues are with the current offerings. Based on your posts, you've missed a lot of that discussion. I'd suggest starting there instead.
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Just saying that several of your statements in this thread are false. 3/4/5 is insufficient and there has been lots of discussion of alternate 6-speed gearsets from multiple reputable sources. If you missed those discussions, you're starting behind the 8-ball.
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You have been here 2 years. Savington has been here for 11. These ideas have been discussed before in many threads. You are sounding like the people who would come into the studs stretching thread and spout out idea's that have been talked about years ago like we have not thought about them or tried them out.
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I've read the threads on the Quaife box's, that's why I am pushing the 6 speed box. Axial load is dependent on the helix angle on the gears, reducing the angle MAY be a way to reduce this effect. I am not proposing designing anything myself, I am just attempting to get a concensus on what would be desired and asking a supplier if they would able to support the needs.
Just because I have been a member on this board for a specific amount of time has absolutely nothing to do with my experience. If you would like to be steered by someone who is out to profit from constant berating anything he doesn't sell the whole of the community will suffer.
Just because I have been a member on this board for a specific amount of time has absolutely nothing to do with my experience. If you would like to be steered by someone who is out to profit from constant berating anything he doesn't sell the whole of the community will suffer.
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I agree this is the Mecca for turbo MIATAS other platforms are running north of 1000hp in syncro boxes designed to fit inside a factory box. Again I do not pretend to know how to make this happen, just looking for a set of parameters to have a MFR work around.
https://www.speedfactoryracing.net/d...and-upper-cuff
Yes that is a very expensive example but it is designed to fit in a factory box and survives 10x the factory power level the box was originally designed to support.
https://www.speedfactoryracing.net/d...and-upper-cuff
Yes that is a very expensive example but it is designed to fit in a factory box and survives 10x the factory power level the box was originally designed to support.
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It takes an extremely talented driver and some luck to get anywhere near that on a B Honda in a light chassis. We are not comparing engines, but a factory with a turbo engine does not support much more TQ than a BP. The Honda piston ring lands typically fail before the rods.
Yes R&D is that not the goal?
Yes a 7k gear set, final drive and handcuff that supports 10x not 2x
Yes R&D is that not the goal?
Yes a 7k gear set, final drive and handcuff that supports 10x not 2x