Lets talk about Shocks vs Coilovers what do you use
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Lets talk about Shocks vs Coilovers what do you use
Hey guys now that i have my miata up and running i was planing on upgrading the shocks and springs. The ones that my NA came with are worn/blown so its time. Here is what i was planing on doing. Buying KYB ajustable shocks from my local auto parts store and matching those with the megan racing/eibach spring combo.
I was thinking this might be a better combo then buying an ebay coilover kit that will make my car *** bounce more then a uncle luke video, plus it maybe a cash saver vs a high quality coilover kit. My plans with the car are daily driver with an autocross future. What do the you guys run and what the $ amount spent on it, was it worth the money for it and what mistakes/brands should ppl avoid.
I was thinking this might be a better combo then buying an ebay coilover kit that will make my car *** bounce more then a uncle luke video, plus it maybe a cash saver vs a high quality coilover kit. My plans with the car are daily driver with an autocross future. What do the you guys run and what the $ amount spent on it, was it worth the money for it and what mistakes/brands should ppl avoid.
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No AST/Xida, no care.
No AST/Xida, no care.
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Actually I wanted a setup that would meet my ride height needs without the purchase of additional spacers and that would ride and handle better than the Xida CS setup on my buddy's 01 LS for street and autocross.
I got what I wanted in each department and paid less than I would have for the Xida CS system, so what do I care what the shocks bodies are made from and where the springs are from?
I got what I wanted in each department and paid less than I would have for the Xida CS system, so what do I care what the shocks bodies are made from and where the springs are from?
#11
1600 for fat cats? must have been the non-adjustables. Shaik is a master at revalving stocks designed for a stock car to work almost as well as dedicated performance shocks. He's also great at taking months to fill and order and "losing shocks in the mail for a month". For the amount of money you pay for fat cats, you can buy a set of billies and revalve them yourself about 20 times until you get them setup the way you want them. I was going to buy fat cats, I drank the cool aid, then one of their sponsored drivers (no longer) called him on his cell phone and asked when he was going to get shock shafts in. He had just go a set (in march) but they were all accounted for. No thanks I wanted my shocks before July.
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I don't understand you guys who will spend $1600 on FCMs that are super heavy, China sprung, slip-on bodies, rubber lower mounts, less overall travel, and questionable shipping times when you can have something light, with great dual springs, metal lower mount, more travel, and world-class reputation for $200 more.
#13
Lets be honest, you're not going to pay less than 2200 to get a xida setup. 1800 doesnt come with NB mounts or helper springs. But they are worth every penny you pay to get a shock that is fairly well valved with very low hysteresis. Hysteresis is the secret to a good shock and a great shock, and its a design thing, not something shaik can fix with valving.
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Lets be honest, you're not going to pay less than 2200 to get a xida setup. 1800 doesnt come with NB mounts or helper springs. But they are worth every penny you pay to get a shock that is fairly well valved with very low hysteresis. Hysteresis is the secret to a good shock and a great shock, and its a design thing, not something shaik can fix with valving.
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I don't understand you guys who will spend $1600 on FCMs that are super heavy, China sprung, slip-on bodies, rubber lower mounts, less overall travel, and questionable shipping times when you can have something light, with great dual springs, metal lower mount, more travel, and world-class reputation for $200 more.
Yeah, but to add the dual spring it's another $260, and $100 if you need stock NB mounts. $1999.99 for xida; that's without the fancy dual springs.
I don't see how the FCMs are china sprung, as at least the hyperco springs are made in the USA. I don't disagree that the Xida are better. They are greater in every way, including price.
Complete Xida's are $2250. FCM were $1600 (now I think they're $1700). For me, that $500 means a LOT. My car is a DD, and an autox car. I;m not going to nationals anytime soon; FCM seems like a better option.
Sure for you guys with extra cars, desk jobs, this-that-and-the-other; Get your xida's and spin your meat while thundering down the track giving me the finger.
For those of us where 90% of the performance is good enough, FCM is a viable option.
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Although I agree that 949's "allow 1 week for shipping" is very sexy compared to FCMs reputation for "uhhhhh next week".