Help me decide on a tire!
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Help me decide on a tire!
Here are my four choices:
Falken RT-615 205/50 $583
Kumho XS 205/50 $623
Bridgestone RE-11 205/50 $639
Hankook RS2 225/45 $719
The prices seem high, but these are from a Canadian retailer, which ends up being cheaper than sourcing them from the US because of shipping and brokerage fees.
I'm leaning towards the RE-11 right now. These are going on 15X8 6UL.
Thoughts?
Falken RT-615 205/50 $583
Kumho XS 205/50 $623
Bridgestone RE-11 205/50 $639
Hankook RS2 225/45 $719
The prices seem high, but these are from a Canadian retailer, which ends up being cheaper than sourcing them from the US because of shipping and brokerage fees.
I'm leaning towards the RE-11 right now. These are going on 15X8 6UL.
Thoughts?
#2
If you are not concerned about tire wear or rain, add the Nitto NT01 225/45 to your list. I just bought a pair, put them on 15x8 6uls, and they are fantastic. The only downside is I like them so much I am going to have to force myself to take them off the car so I do not wear them out before I get them to the track
I have a set of Fuzion ZRi in 205/50 on 15x6 stock wheels for my daily driver tires.
I have a set of Fuzion ZRi in 205/50 on 15x6 stock wheels for my daily driver tires.
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Here are my four choices:
Falken RT-615 205/50 $583
Kumho XS 205/50 $623
Bridgestone RE-11 205/50 $639
Hankook RS2 225/45 $719
The prices seem high, but these are from a Canadian retailer, which ends up being cheaper than sourcing them from the US because of shipping and brokerage fees.
I'm leaning towards the RE-11 right now. These are going on 15X8 6UL.
Thoughts?
Falken RT-615 205/50 $583
Kumho XS 205/50 $623
Bridgestone RE-11 205/50 $639
Hankook RS2 225/45 $719
The prices seem high, but these are from a Canadian retailer, which ends up being cheaper than sourcing them from the US because of shipping and brokerage fees.
I'm leaning towards the RE-11 right now. These are going on 15X8 6UL.
Thoughts?
#7
Dunlop star spec gets good reviews for both wet and dry.
Slight thread jack: for 15x7 wheels. Is a 225 tire too wide? Will I loose very much handling if I drop to a 195 tire assuming from a 205 tire? I want to switch to either the dunlop star spec, or hancook rs3. Neither of which come in a 205, which I currently run.
Slight thread jack: for 15x7 wheels. Is a 225 tire too wide? Will I loose very much handling if I drop to a 195 tire assuming from a 205 tire? I want to switch to either the dunlop star spec, or hancook rs3. Neither of which come in a 205, which I currently run.
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The 225/45 RS2 has a tread width of 8". RT-615 and RE-11 both have a treadwidth of 7.6". Not sure about the XS.
And there is this quote
And there is this quote
Originally Posted by Andy Hollis
RS2's are trash compared to the XS. I've run both, and the Kook is not even in the ballpark. Width does not matter when the compound is old news and the tread pattern is full of void.
RS2's are trash compared to the XS. I've run both, and the Kook is not even in the ballpark. Width does not matter when the compound is old news and the tread pattern is full of void.
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and next to 225 rs-2's
I don't have any pics of them on the car yet, but they do not look stretched at all. I was concerned about this, but my research for "the widest all season tire" was fruitful.
#14
I had both the 615s and the XS, the XS has a higher overall limit, turn in is even. The 615 is a little more communicative, not in feel, but in the squalling they make at the limit. If you don't need to hear 'em squalling, the XS would be my choice, at least between these two. I don't think I would go with the RS2s (on my new track toy, I can report after my first track day) because the XS is as good or better, for less $. I will be looking at Nittos once my RS2s are dead, any more input on the NT01s?
#15
Yes it can be done, but you sacrifice contact patch because of the sidewall bulging over. Here is a 225 on 6 in wheel.
I think a 225 is best fit on an 8 in or even a 9 in wheel. The wider rim gives a slightly firmer side wall and yields a more crisp turn in feeling. So IMO a very slight stretch is OK, not that donk drifter stretch ****. Here are my current setups with 225's:
225/45/15 NT01 on a 15x8
225/50/15 A048 on a 15x9
The best tire especially for the money out of that bunch is the RE-11 for sure. I bet it will still offer much more grip in a 205 compared to the 225 RS-2. It also shouldn't really look stretched on an 8in rim.
I run RS-2's on my dd Civic and Azenis 615 for my street wheels on my NB. The Azenis offer a little more grip, but the RS-2 seems to be an easier tire to drive on and offers better feedback to the driver at the limit. Both tires are sensitive to temperatures, especially in the cold. Living in New England, I have had the oppurtunity to drive them all in temperatures from 20 F to 100F. I love the NT01's for track days. They are hands down an awesome tire and manage heat very well on a lighter car. Compared to the A048's, the grip is very similar and they cost almost half the price. I only bought the A048's because I got a good deal on them from Matt Andrews.
#16
I did 2 10 minute sessions in my friends H22 eg civic racecar on brand new 195/50/15 RE-11's at the begining of the season and I thought tey were great.
The car could have used a wider version as wot induced spin n 1-3 gear. I'm coming from a backround of lots of azenis so I don't know a lot about too many tires, but you defnately don't want Azenis (your friends will laugh at you)
The tire was responsive and didn't get sloppy with alittle heat. Grip transition was smooth and predictable, my only issue was that the car needed a 205 easily and the 195's were definately under-sized.
I also talked with one of the guys that was running star specs last year (the only guy to beat my lap time, so he is quick) and he switched to xs' this year after all the hot reviews and he didn't like them at all compared to his dunlops. Said turn in was late and loose and the star specs had overall more grip. (His laps were cosistantly .5sec or so slower than last year).
I would be looking for something 225 wide and definately don't bother with RS-2's or azenis.
XS or RE's either should do the trick.
-Dean
The car could have used a wider version as wot induced spin n 1-3 gear. I'm coming from a backround of lots of azenis so I don't know a lot about too many tires, but you defnately don't want Azenis (your friends will laugh at you)
The tire was responsive and didn't get sloppy with alittle heat. Grip transition was smooth and predictable, my only issue was that the car needed a 205 easily and the 195's were definately under-sized.
I also talked with one of the guys that was running star specs last year (the only guy to beat my lap time, so he is quick) and he switched to xs' this year after all the hot reviews and he didn't like them at all compared to his dunlops. Said turn in was late and loose and the star specs had overall more grip. (His laps were cosistantly .5sec or so slower than last year).
I would be looking for something 225 wide and definately don't bother with RS-2's or azenis.
XS or RE's either should do the trick.
-Dean
Last edited by dc2696; 08-06-2009 at 04:39 PM.
#20
Does a 225 on a 6'' really work...well? Seems like the side walls would just be flopping all over the place being as they are wider than the wheel. At least a 205 on an 8'' wheel is slightly more narrow, stable like standing with your legs spread. Unlike the 2225's on a 6'' wheel, like standing with your legs crossed, not stable and solid.