Get in car. Depress clutch. Tow car home. Ugh....
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So last night I was out downtown and decided it was time to go home. Got in the car, started and went to push the clutch in. I knew something wasn't right when the pedal was very soft (I had just bled/flushed it last weekend and all was good). Thinking there might be a little bubble in there somewhere, I pumped the clutch a few times. After a few pumps, there was resistance down low and it started getting back to normal. So with one last push, the pedal went about half way down and I heard a "pop". ****. Got under the car and found the actuator pin from the slave to the fork, fully extended and nearly falling out of the slave. I got a 8mm out and opened the bleeder and was able to push the pin back into the slave, but the clutch fork did not return to it's "resting" position. With the removal of the pin, I could physically move the fork fore and aft about .75-1" and about .5" up and down.
Had the car towed home knowing the transmission needs to come out...FML.
I don't want to do the work...will probably have a flatbed come grab the car today and take my car somewhere.
Now here is where it gets interesting. I picked my car up from a bodyshop back on Aug 30th. When the guy pulled my car around, I noticed a noise coming from the car that was not there before I dropped it off. My car sounded like it had a supercharger when using the clutch. I know this....it's when a throwout bearing is bad. I specifically expressed to the shop to be very careful with the clutch when I dropped the car off too. Clearly they didn't give a **** and when I said something to the service guy when picking my car up, he just kinda blew me off and said "Well we can take it back in the shop and have a tech look at it to see if it was caused at the time of your accident".**
So what do we think guys? Destroyed throw out bearing? What are the symptoms of such a case?
*"Accident was a piece of road debris got kicked up and hit the side of my car on the interstate.
Had the car towed home knowing the transmission needs to come out...FML.
I don't want to do the work...will probably have a flatbed come grab the car today and take my car somewhere.
Now here is where it gets interesting. I picked my car up from a bodyshop back on Aug 30th. When the guy pulled my car around, I noticed a noise coming from the car that was not there before I dropped it off. My car sounded like it had a supercharger when using the clutch. I know this....it's when a throwout bearing is bad. I specifically expressed to the shop to be very careful with the clutch when I dropped the car off too. Clearly they didn't give a **** and when I said something to the service guy when picking my car up, he just kinda blew me off and said "Well we can take it back in the shop and have a tech look at it to see if it was caused at the time of your accident".**
So what do we think guys? Destroyed throw out bearing? What are the symptoms of such a case?
*"Accident was a piece of road debris got kicked up and hit the side of my car on the interstate.
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Break? ![Thefinger](https://www.miataturbo.net/images/smilies/thefinger.gif)
Seriously though, if the TOB has given up the clutch fork has nothing to push against the pressure plate so clutch no longer worky.
Ballache that it's a drop the box job to fix, but at least it's a cheap part. Replace the box seal, rear engine seal and pilot bearing whilst your there.
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Seriously though, if the TOB has given up the clutch fork has nothing to push against the pressure plate so clutch no longer worky.
Ballache that it's a drop the box job to fix, but at least it's a cheap part. Replace the box seal, rear engine seal and pilot bearing whilst your there.
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I may try to look in there when I get home, but either way, trans needs to come out. I really don't want to do it in my garage and am just going to have it towed somewhere for someone else to do.
No ****? Really? Thanks Rish, would have never thought of that
Luckily, when I replaced the engine last year, everything under there is new...so it *should* be an in-and-out job.
Break? ![Thefinger](https://www.miataturbo.net/images/smilies/thefinger.gif)
Seriously though, if the TOB has given up the clutch fork has nothing to push against the pressure plate so clutch no longer worky.
Ballache that it's a drop the box job to fix, but at least it's a cheap part. Replace the box seal, rear engine seal and pilot bearing whilst your there.
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Seriously though, if the TOB has given up the clutch fork has nothing to push against the pressure plate so clutch no longer worky.
Ballache that it's a drop the box job to fix, but at least it's a cheap part. Replace the box seal, rear engine seal and pilot bearing whilst your there.
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Be sure of much sarcasm ![big grin](https://www.miataturbo.net/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
I was seriously wondering in what way do they fail though as I've never had first hand experience with a failed TOB.
I'm guessing to have someone pulls the trans and replace a part or two, it'll run me $300-$400.
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I was seriously wondering in what way do they fail though as I've never had first hand experience with a failed TOB.
I'm guessing to have someone pulls the trans and replace a part or two, it'll run me $300-$400.
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Mine did the same as yours, it allows the fork to travel too far and the push rod pops out. Made some nasty whirring noises for a minute before hand too.
I, however (not being a pansy and all), made it out of the burger king drive thru, 2 miles back to work, and then 26 miles back home, all the while using the starter to get going and no clutch when shifting. Just sayin'.
I, however (not being a pansy and all), made it out of the burger king drive thru, 2 miles back to work, and then 26 miles back home, all the while using the starter to get going and no clutch when shifting. Just sayin'.
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I've driven across the city with a dead slave...I just didn't feel like doing it again. State Farm will repay me the tow bill anyway.
Well, got the car on stands, took the fork boot off and stuck a camera up there....I think I found a problem...(click full size if you want to see the molecular structure of the problem)
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howthefuckdididothis by AnonymousNamelss, on Flickr
Well, got the car on stands, took the fork boot off and stuck a camera up there....I think I found a problem...(click full size if you want to see the molecular structure of the problem)
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howthefuckdididothis by AnonymousNamelss, on Flickr
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^^ Damn, broken shift fork?
Another example of our trannys' less then stellar durability (or shop techs went Ferris Bueller valet guys for 4 miles)
Maybe this guy can fabricate cheap adapter kits to use F-body or Mustang transmissions.
https://www.miataturbo.net/meet-greet-40/hello-all-question-ya-60768/#post778463
Another example of our trannys' less then stellar durability (or shop techs went Ferris Bueller valet guys for 4 miles)
Maybe this guy can fabricate cheap adapter kits to use F-body or Mustang transmissions.
https://www.miataturbo.net/meet-greet-40/hello-all-question-ya-60768/#post778463
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Yup. Add this to the list of "what the ****? How the **** did I do that?"....broken PPF, snapped an intake camshaft, broke a pivot bolt in the transmission, snapped a cast iron turbo manifold, pretzeled a rear ladder brace and a few other things I can't think of right now.
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Yeah, I didn't have much choice as I can't exactly do my own body work. I doubt the shop will own up to the TOB noise it got it back with. I WILL be on their *** for the other cosmetic issues....once I get the car fixed...which will be at least a week. I local shop has offered to let me use their lift for a day for $125.