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Old 07-04-2017, 01:35 PM
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Default First drive with new everything: car hops in reverse

Just went for the first drive since the allofit swap, including 6 speed and 3.63 gears (i had a shop do the ring and pinion swap). Got back from a short autotune drive and went to back into my garage, after about 8 feet the rear of the car started to hop with a metal clinking sound that I can't think of a great way to describe the sound. I'm pretty sure i was backing in straight. Any ideas? Roast away.
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diff seizing from the shop not setting the tension correctly? that's all i got.
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all i heard was i put 3.63 gears in and a whole lotta other **** and something broke.

best of luck on figuring this fun one out, its a sad day when parts break
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Thanks guys, I'll take it to the shop that put the diff together and ask him if he can figure it out. At least the car drives forward fine. I hope it's not me just not puttig everything in correctly. A forum friend suggested maybe it's the clutch that's grabbing and skipping, but i do want to figure it out
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What about axles? Are they new? Did you reuse them? Also, the diff gears mesh differently when they are loaded in the opposite direction. I think it could also be an issue with incorrect backlash settings. I could see it doing that if it were too loose.

Which diff mounts did you use? I think that if this were the case you would notice in forward gears too, but yet again, the entire assembly is being loaded in the opposite direction. Recheck torque/bolts on diff mounts and PPF.

Also, are you using a OE torsen, or a different LSD?
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Originally Posted by chicksdigmiatas
What about axles? Are they new? Did you reuse them? Also, the diff gears mesh differently when they are loaded in the opposite direction. I think it could also be an issue with incorrect backlash settings. I could see it doing that if it were too loose.

Which diff mounts did you use? I think that if this were the case you would notice in forward gears too, but yet again, the entire assembly is being loaded in the opposite direction. Recheck torque/bolts on diff mounts and PPF.

Also, are you using a OE torsen, or a different LSD?
Axles were purchased used from Treasure Coast Miata, so not the original axles but OE. New PU diff mounts. I'll check torque. Torsen is from a 97 donor car i got from junkyard, so I'm assuming it's OE. I didn't push it but I backed into my garage again two days ago and it didn't seem to hop as much, but it's hard to tell with noise too because the car is pretty loud.
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Did the welds break?
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Originally Posted by thirdgen

Did the welds break?

JB weld never breaks, right?
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I believe I was able to replicate the sound today while driving. I had to pull over on a narrow street to let a car come by the other way and stalled, for a second car rolled forward for a foot or two still in 1st gear and heard a similar sound towards the middle of the car. I drove for an hour today with no issues at all, nothing has blown up or flown out other than the ratchet extension i left somewhere in the engine bay that flew out when I went around a turn, but that's another story. Really puzzled by this.
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I had a similar issue when backing up. It turned out to be a broken motor mount. (rubber was separated from the metal on one side)

Perhaps they left a motor mount loose?
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Originally Posted by Darkwood 1
I had a similar issue when backing up. It turned out to be a broken motor mount. (rubber was separated from the metal on one side)

Perhaps they left a motor mount loose?

I actually figured it out and should have posted. I have brand new everything including a reeeally grabby 6 puck clutch, so it was grabbing and skipping and chirping.
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