Depowered Rack Seal Question
#1
Depowered Rack Seal Question
Hey everyone,
I'm in the middle of depowering my steering rack the "proper" way. I have the newer style JKC rack (the one with the pinion in the two piece housing) and I'm confused on whether or not I have to remove this seal:
from the dave coleman miatabusa link, he removes this seal
from the flyin miata link, they keep the seal
so, which seat should I take? I mean which route should I go with? Also what's the consensus, leave some PS fluid in or keep that bitch greased and dry
I'm in the middle of depowering my steering rack the "proper" way. I have the newer style JKC rack (the one with the pinion in the two piece housing) and I'm confused on whether or not I have to remove this seal:
from the dave coleman miatabusa link, he removes this seal
from the flyin miata link, they keep the seal
so, which seat should I take? I mean which route should I go with? Also what's the consensus, leave some PS fluid in or keep that bitch greased and dry
#2
My racks are the earlier version, but I've come to the conclusion that the various seals create insignificant friction, but do an excellent job of keeping crap out of, and lubricant in, the rack.
I used to eliminate various seals and then had to use grease where the much thinner hydraulic fluid used to reside. Now, by keeping the seals, I've found I can use hydraulic fluid where hydraulic fluid is supposed to be, and grease where it's supposed to be, and the overall friction is much less.
The greatest contributor to friction, by far, is the adjustment of the rack pre-load. Get this correct and you're rack will be as good as it gets.
I used to eliminate various seals and then had to use grease where the much thinner hydraulic fluid used to reside. Now, by keeping the seals, I've found I can use hydraulic fluid where hydraulic fluid is supposed to be, and grease where it's supposed to be, and the overall friction is much less.
The greatest contributor to friction, by far, is the adjustment of the rack pre-load. Get this correct and you're rack will be as good as it gets.
#6
If you mean seal ring on the rack piston, no, that seal is the one you do want to remove. Removing that rack seal keeps the air within the rack from pressurizing. It's almost certainly overkill, but I remove the piston as well.
You can loop the lines, but then you're pumping the air within the rack cylinder from one side of the rack to the other through tiny orifices. It's probably not a major problem, and lots of folks do it, but I doubt it's the optimum solution.
The end result of a properly de-powered rack is worth the extra time and effort. Half way solutions will give half way results. It's really not that hard to do it right, so why compromise?
You can loop the lines, but then you're pumping the air within the rack cylinder from one side of the rack to the other through tiny orifices. It's probably not a major problem, and lots of folks do it, but I doubt it's the optimum solution.
The end result of a properly de-powered rack is worth the extra time and effort. Half way solutions will give half way results. It's really not that hard to do it right, so why compromise?
#8
Sorry if I misled you. I thought you were asking about the seals in the parts you show in your photographs.
So, to recap, take out the ring seal on the rack piston. Leave everything else. Use a bit of hydraulic fluid where the hydraulic fluid used to be; use grease where the parts were greased.
So, to recap, take out the ring seal on the rack piston. Leave everything else. Use a bit of hydraulic fluid where the hydraulic fluid used to be; use grease where the parts were greased.
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My racks are the earlier version, but I've come to the conclusion that the various seals create insignificant friction, but do an excellent job of keeping crap out of, and lubricant in, the rack.
I used to eliminate various seals and then had to use grease where the much thinner hydraulic fluid used to reside. Now, by keeping the seals, I've found I can use hydraulic fluid where hydraulic fluid is supposed to be, and grease where it's supposed to be, and the overall friction is much less.
The greatest contributor to friction, by far, is the adjustment of the rack pre-load. Get this correct and you're rack will be as good as it gets.
I used to eliminate various seals and then had to use grease where the much thinner hydraulic fluid used to reside. Now, by keeping the seals, I've found I can use hydraulic fluid where hydraulic fluid is supposed to be, and grease where it's supposed to be, and the overall friction is much less.
The greatest contributor to friction, by far, is the adjustment of the rack pre-load. Get this correct and you're rack will be as good as it gets.
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