Clutch shopping
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Clutch shopping
I'm getting a new clutch. Old one was an ACT disc type. I have the 10.3# FM flywheel, it's resurfaced. I was automatically going to call FM to order their stage 2 kit, but should I cast a little deeper and look around at alternatives?
The ACT was fine WRT pedal pressure, and I didn't mind the low takeup. I also don't mind the light recip weight. I'll probably max out in the 300whp range, with lots and lots of autox and some track driving mixed in. I don't take it easy.
I looked at Emilio's superlight dual disc setup, but I don't THINK I want to spend that kind of money. Probably worth it though, right? That's at least 5# less than the light fw/FM clutch, no? Will I have to up the idle to counteract any droop? I wasn't getting much before.
I've read the neg feedback on the kevlar units, so that's out. Whatdyathink?
The ACT was fine WRT pedal pressure, and I didn't mind the low takeup. I also don't mind the light recip weight. I'll probably max out in the 300whp range, with lots and lots of autox and some track driving mixed in. I don't take it easy.
I looked at Emilio's superlight dual disc setup, but I don't THINK I want to spend that kind of money. Probably worth it though, right? That's at least 5# less than the light fw/FM clutch, no? Will I have to up the idle to counteract any droop? I wasn't getting much before.
I've read the neg feedback on the kevlar units, so that's out. Whatdyathink?
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I've spent a lot of moneys on this build so far, now is not the time to cheap out. If someone has Emilio's sex in the round, hit me up (Savingaton). I don't want to wish I had it a few months from now.
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Honestly I really do not know what the big deal is on pedal effort on the XT. I think it is overstated in some cases, having owned stock, HD, and XT.
Do not get me wrong, Emilio's dual disc setup is beautiful. If money were no object I would consider it as well.
EDIT: These guys sell ACT at a good price. I bought my HD from them. Shop around though.
http://www.carolinaclutch.com/
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the pedal effort on the XTSS (what I have) is not bad at all even for a DD, and it is much less expensive. Looking at just those two options, and the cost, I would go with the XTSS. This
Honestly I really do not know what the big deal is on pedal effort on the XT. I think it is overstated in some cases, having owned stock, HD, and XT.
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Honestly I really do not know what the big deal is on pedal effort on the XT. I think it is overstated in some cases, having owned stock, HD, and XT.
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the pedal effort is significantly noticeable on the Xt over the HD.... why making driving harder with extra effort? if the FMII is a light pedal, engages like stock, yet holds massive torque...then why would you use anything that's an extra burden for no reason when you drive?
I've driven both, HD is as light as stock, XT is not. the end.
I've driven both, HD is as light as stock, XT is not. the end.
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I'm not saying they are not different. I am saying the difference is not big enough to be a big deal IMO, and certainly should not be the deciding factor in buying the twin disc setup.
Man, once again we are collectively beating the clutch horse. Seems like I recall some previous discussions on clutch selection that would cover the OPs question...
Man, once again we are collectively beating the clutch horse. Seems like I recall some previous discussions on clutch selection that would cover the OPs question...
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I think a search would have found everything we are rehashing as well.
I got my XT used, for a steal, and was beyond happy to sell the eBay 6puck I had spent almost as much on.
ACT engages like stock...period. Yes, the XT is a little harder than stock. You notice it at first, but get used to it quickly and it then becomes the norm, like when I switched from right hand to left.
I don't understand the need for a superlight clutch anyhow. I like knowing the pedal is fighting back a little. Then again I'm jacked and think there's NOTHING wrong with a depowered rack...
I got my XT used, for a steal, and was beyond happy to sell the eBay 6puck I had spent almost as much on.
ACT engages like stock...period. Yes, the XT is a little harder than stock. You notice it at first, but get used to it quickly and it then becomes the norm, like when I switched from right hand to left.
I don't understand the need for a superlight clutch anyhow. I like knowing the pedal is fighting back a little. Then again I'm jacked and think there's NOTHING wrong with a depowered rack...
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the twins aren't for weight savings, they're for power holding. it just happens that they are very civilized because of having two clutch plates. If you never want more than 300 flywheel torque and aren't also replacing your flywheel, it's not economically justified.
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Looks like realistically I am between an FM stage 2 and ACT XT, disc type. I'm kind of leaning toward the FM, just so that I can try something different than what I had/have. Plus, at least getting the ACT XT from Goodwin, the FM stage 2 is cheaper. When does that happen?
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Switched from right to left for what?
to your mother. I like a little extra clutch effort, and the depowered rack. To each his own. I heard Hustler put a suspension spring under his clutch pedal just for the extra quad/calf workout.
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On the contrary. The twin 7.25 organic will modulate better than any single disc with the same torque capacity, and better than most with half the capacity. You just have to get used to an engine that revs a lot quicker. Great street setup for someone that wants to positively eliminate any slip on sub 350whp cars, be smooth enough for the GF/SO to drive and allow it to rev like bike. The only downside of the twin 7.25 is cost. Functionally, it's a win-win.
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