Suspension, Brakes, Drivetrain discuss the wondrous effects of boost and your miata...
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Car Get's Stuck In 1st, master, slave or clutch?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 02-24-2014 | 10:50 AM
  #1  
MANAEUNOS's Avatar
Thread Starter
Newb
 
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 30
Total Cats: -2
From: Boston, MA
Default Car Get's Stuck In 1st, master, slave or clutch?

Hello MT

My 96 NA started acting up on me once again

It started last night
So clutch became about an inch or so lower than it was for the past 6 months
When I come to a complete stop, shifting in first is possible only if I touch the clutch just to shift into first. But I have to either shift it into 2nd or force to shifter into neutral (car feels like automatic you begin to panic and have to either shift or RIP it out of the gear)
If I hold the clutch and the brake or just the clutch pedal all the way to the floor for more than a couple of seconds it wont go into gear at all and clutch will stay sucked in for about a second.
No visible leaks on the slave cylinder, the reservoir is full and did not change it's level at all since summer 2013.

When the car is already rolling even just 2mph it's as easy as usual to shift in/out of the 1st. Definitely something clutch pressure related but what?
According to symptoms is it a slave cylinder, master cylinder or pressure plate?
Old 02-24-2014 | 11:24 AM
  #2  
Tekel's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 851
Total Cats: 37
From: Beckley, WV
Default

It sounds like your master and/or slave is bad.

It will always be easier when moving, you can shift a car without ever touching the clutch. just wait for everything to line up and it slides in.
Old 02-24-2014 | 11:49 AM
  #3  
MANAEUNOS's Avatar
Thread Starter
Newb
 
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 30
Total Cats: -2
From: Boston, MA
Default

Originally Posted by Tekel

It will always be easier when moving, you can shift a car without ever touching the clutch. just wait for everything to line up and it slides in.
I know what you talking about but try shifting into 1st rolling 5mph wihtout clutch haha. I am saying that when the car is rolling problem goes away. Like I can go in first with difficulty, get some speed, rip it out of first with difficulty and put it back into 1st without trouble
Old 02-24-2014 | 12:19 PM
  #4  
Savington's Avatar
Former Vendor
iTrader: (31)
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 15,442
Total Cats: 2,104
From: Sunnyvale, CA
Default

It's probably your hydraulics. Change the master and the slave, especially if you've never changed them or don't know when they were last changed.

If not, then your hydraulics needed to be done anyway and you can put a new clutch in without worrying about old hydraulics ruining it
Old 02-24-2014 | 02:35 PM
  #5  
curly's Avatar
Cpt. Slow
iTrader: (25)
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 14,497
Total Cats: 1,236
From: Oregon City, OR
Default

A simple bleed will usually solve the problem, and you'll know it's the hydraulics. Unfortunately it'll come back obviously. But it might get you through the week while you order parts.

Another option is pumping the clutch 5-6 times, it'll probably go into 1st when stopped a little more easily. Again, this is just a bandaid.
Old 02-24-2014 | 02:48 PM
  #6  
mx5autoxer's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 1,242
Total Cats: 57
From: Manassas, Virginia
Default

Definitely the clutch master or slave cylinder. Replace both. DO NOT USE BRAKE FLUID THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN OPENED. Use a fresh bottle and when you're done, throw the leftovers away. I replaced 4 slave cylinders and two masters before I learned this.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
EricJ
Suspension, Brakes, Drivetrain
7
09-12-2021 12:10 AM
asmasm
Build Threads
82
05-26-2016 05:37 PM
concealer404
Suspension, Brakes, Drivetrain
8
09-17-2015 01:04 PM
shanesauce
General Miata Chat
1
09-06-2015 09:47 PM
AlwaysBroken
Engine Performance
5
09-06-2015 01:53 AM




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:25 AM.