What's wrong with superchargers?
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Leafy is everywhere.
I don't really need to convince anyone of anything with turbos vs. superchargers. My SSM car is freaking fun to drive on the street. From a roll at 30mph in third it hits like a truck as soon as you touch the gas. That's fun for me. I used to play with turbos, both little ones in WRX's and big ones in Alltracs and MR2s and Supras. I'll never go back other than for a dedicated track car. For anything other than arrest-me-now 60-100mph pulls (which are fun, but ... yeah, gonna get arrested for it someday), superchargers are way more fun for me.
I don't really need to convince anyone of anything with turbos vs. superchargers. My SSM car is freaking fun to drive on the street. From a roll at 30mph in third it hits like a truck as soon as you touch the gas. That's fun for me. I used to play with turbos, both little ones in WRX's and big ones in Alltracs and MR2s and Supras. I'll never go back other than for a dedicated track car. For anything other than arrest-me-now 60-100mph pulls (which are fun, but ... yeah, gonna get arrested for it someday), superchargers are way more fun for me.
#124
I suspect my power right now is ~225wtq@2500rpms. We used to have big issues with the tip-in maps, and we were only really doing full power pulls from 3kish onward with that dyno, and had an electrical issue that ended our day before we could work on the low end.
If you look at the shape of the curve and mirror it back before the tip-in super-richness is killing power, it should be 220-225, and that's what it feels like coming out of slow corners. It's a fun toy. I'm working on converting it to be usable as a street car until I figure out what to do with it, since I'm probably done with autocrossing it. I might pull just the drivetrain out and throw it in another NA as a daily driver and sell off all the other parts.
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You auto-x guys have a very specific need for output below 3000rpm, it doesn't make sense for the daily drivers or track crew because every supercharged car I've tune shows that compromises output above 5000rpm.
#127
Not a stock motor, but I drove a tiny turbo on a 2 litre stroker yesterday. I honestly couldnt feel the switch between vac and boost. It did not hit like a ton of bricks like the other turbo cars I'd driven in. It honestly felt more like just a big NA engine than my old blower setup used to feel like.
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Not a stock motor, but I drove a tiny turbo on a 2 litre stroker yesterday. I honestly couldnt feel the switch between vac and boost. It did not hit like a ton of bricks like the other turbo cars I'd driven in. It honestly felt more like just a big NA engine than my old blower setup used to feel like.
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Terrible troll post. 0/10
Not a stock motor, but I drove a tiny turbo on a 2 litre stroker yesterday. I honestly couldnt feel the switch between vac and boost. It did not hit like a ton of bricks like the other turbo cars I'd driven in. It honestly felt more like just a big NA engine than my old blower setup used to feel like.
#134
Here is a sample of super vs turbo in autocross. Two ~250hp turbo NC's on top and a 200+hp & 175hp supercharged in third and fourth. The boosted class in our club is pretty well prepped suspension wise with mixed power between 175-260hp both supercharged and turbo. Every race is a toss up and almost always a cluster within a few tenths. Typically, the fully prepped STR or other NA/NB steals FTD over all the boosted cars.
In other words, this debate is pointless.
In other words, this debate is pointless.
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Here is a sample of super vs turbo in autocross. Two ~250hp turbo NC's on top and a 200+hp & 175hp supercharged in third and fourth. The boosted class in our club is pretty well prepped suspension wise with mixed power between 175-260hp both supercharged and turbo. Every race is a toss up and almost always a cluster within a few tenths. Typically, the fully prepped STR or other NA/NB steals FTD over all the boosted cars.
In other words, this debate is pointless.
In other words, this debate is pointless.
#137
So what you're saying is that because of the fact that a turbo car will KEEP making more power and more torque everywhere else in the powerband, and neccessitate the use of slicks to put down all of it at 10/10, it totally SUCKS because it doesn't go limp-dick after that first 5 seconds after you plant your foot?
Terrible troll post. 0/10
For once I actually agree with Leafy
Terrible troll post. 0/10
For once I actually agree with Leafy
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Back in 1999 when I worked at CARMAX, there were 4 old guys (+65) with miatas that worked with me. They all had JR superchargers; I knew then to go turbo.
Life has worked well for me like that, for example, I often say to myself, "what would a hippy do?" then do the opposite. Formula is great.
Life has worked well for me like that, for example, I often say to myself, "what would a hippy do?" then do the opposite. Formula is great.
#140
lol aint that the truth.
99% of sc setups are garbage and failaids.
Then we got these 1%'ers coming in with guns blazing running oversized twin screws, built motors, e85, etc. Screaming that we're all wrong.
Its funny.
In the end, there is no miatasupercharger.net, and most manufacturers either already discontinued, or are discontinuing making blowers for these cars.
I wonder why.
99% of sc setups are garbage and failaids.
Then we got these 1%'ers coming in with guns blazing running oversized twin screws, built motors, e85, etc. Screaming that we're all wrong.
Its funny.
In the end, there is no miatasupercharger.net, and most manufacturers either already discontinued, or are discontinuing making blowers for these cars.
I wonder why.