The Better Bilstein Ebay Coilover Thread
#1461
I prefer to only buy things from Bill that are exclusive/MR branded for reasons.
Other people have had success in here getting Maruha to talk to them. What's the secret?
Last email i sent to info@maruhamotors.co.jp
What would total price be and about how long would the shipping take?
Thanks!
Other people have had success in here getting Maruha to talk to them. What's the secret?
Last email i sent to info@maruhamotors.co.jp
Originally Posted by Me
Hello,
Interested in one pair of NC10-28-340_C shipped to US zip code 46237.
#1462
I'm their unofficial US dealer, you can go through me.
Check my store and send me your shopping list for a quote:
Maruha Motors
Thanks!
Bill
Check my store and send me your shopping list for a quote:
Maruha Motors
Thanks!
Bill
#1464
#1465
Miata NB lower shock bushing
I'm in regular contact with the VP of Prothane. If you have a specific product suggestion, I welcome you to direct it to me at Bill@MiataRoadster.com
THANKS
#1467
I've got modified NB hats - TIG welded extended (as per my previous image).
But I'm not convinced that I made them tall enough this time.
For this build I'm doing 550/330 6" f/r with helpers. I'm looking for 12f 12 1/2r ride height on Advanced collars.
My NB hats are +5/8" front and +1 3/8" rear. I may be too tight on the fronts.
What is the increase in height of the Mauha hats?
But I'm not convinced that I made them tall enough this time.
For this build I'm doing 550/330 6" f/r with helpers. I'm looking for 12f 12 1/2r ride height on Advanced collars.
My NB hats are +5/8" front and +1 3/8" rear. I may be too tight on the fronts.
What is the increase in height of the Mauha hats?
#1468
I've got modified NB hats - TIG welded extended (as per my previous image).
But I'm not convinced that I made them tall enough this time.
For this build I'm doing 550/330 6" f/r with helpers. I'm looking for 12f 12 1/2r ride height on Advanced collars.
My NB hats are +5/8" front and +1 3/8" rear. I may be too tight on the fronts.
What is the increase in height of the Mauha hats?
But I'm not convinced that I made them tall enough this time.
For this build I'm doing 550/330 6" f/r with helpers. I'm looking for 12f 12 1/2r ride height on Advanced collars.
My NB hats are +5/8" front and +1 3/8" rear. I may be too tight on the fronts.
What is the increase in height of the Mauha hats?
I actually currently have 1" hats essentially identical to what you made on the front of my car, but the diameter is a touch big and i didn't feel like doing the work to make them fit my nicer car. I run/ran 1" front, 1.5" rear.
Rundown of my setup:
MSM bilsteins revalved by Two Six Motorsports
Bauer sleeves/perches
Cut down Integra Speedthane bumpstops (medium)
Energy suspension spring isolator
Eibach sliders
Hyperco CS100 4" "zero rate" tenders
Hyperco 6" springs, 850lb front, 500lb rear.
I'm swapping them out for Xidas. I do not anticipate any real performance difference, and from full droop to full available compression, it has more travel than the Xidas. (Not necessarily relevant, it doesn't actually use all of it due to spring rates and ride height) I've driven this setup and Xidas back to back and actually feel that at identical spring rates, the Bilstein setup is a bit more controlled at high speed mid corner bumps, but there's some other differences between subject cars that i'm contributing to the "noise." I'm swapping only to save weight.
#1469
They're 20mm according to them.
I actually currently have 1" hats essentially identical to what you made on the front of my car, but the diameter is a touch big and i didn't feel like doing the work to make them fit my nicer car. I run/ran 1" front, 1.5" rear.
Rundown of my setup:
MSM bilsteins revalved by Two Six Motorsports
Bauer sleeves/perches
Cut down Integra Speedthane bumpstops (medium)
Energy suspension spring isolator
Eibach sliders
Hyperco CS100 4" "zero rate" tenders
Hyperco 6" springs, 850lb front, 500lb rear.
I'm swapping them out for Xidas. I do not anticipate any real performance difference, and from full droop to full available compression, it has more travel than the Xidas. (Not necessarily relevant, it doesn't actually use all of it due to spring rates and ride height) I've driven this setup and Xidas back to back and actually feel that at identical spring rates, the Bilstein setup is a bit more controlled at high speed mid corner bumps, but there's some other differences between subject cars that i'm contributing to the "noise." I'm swapping only to save weight.
I actually currently have 1" hats essentially identical to what you made on the front of my car, but the diameter is a touch big and i didn't feel like doing the work to make them fit my nicer car. I run/ran 1" front, 1.5" rear.
Rundown of my setup:
MSM bilsteins revalved by Two Six Motorsports
Bauer sleeves/perches
Cut down Integra Speedthane bumpstops (medium)
Energy suspension spring isolator
Eibach sliders
Hyperco CS100 4" "zero rate" tenders
Hyperco 6" springs, 850lb front, 500lb rear.
I'm swapping them out for Xidas. I do not anticipate any real performance difference, and from full droop to full available compression, it has more travel than the Xidas. (Not necessarily relevant, it doesn't actually use all of it due to spring rates and ride height) I've driven this setup and Xidas back to back and actually feel that at identical spring rates, the Bilstein setup is a bit more controlled at high speed mid corner bumps, but there's some other differences between subject cars that i'm contributing to the "noise." I'm swapping only to save weight.
I've got Gen1 Xida on my '97 FI and I have no complaints, they are plush and do well at AMP with an inferior driver ;/. This Hard S build I'm doing here is for my son's lightweight NA car. It'll be interesting to run them back to back.
My Gen1's are 550/350 so a lot softer than your set up. What will you order for springs on Xida?
#1470
Very nice setup. But what ride height? I want to be lowish.
I've got Gen1 Xida on my '97 FI and I have no complaints, they are plush and do well at AMP with an inferior driver ;/. This Hard S build I'm doing here is for my son's lightweight NA car. It'll be interesting to run them back to back.
My Gen1's are 550/350 so a lot softer than your set up. What will you order for springs on Xida?
I've got Gen1 Xida on my '97 FI and I have no complaints, they are plush and do well at AMP with an inferior driver ;/. This Hard S build I'm doing here is for my son's lightweight NA car. It'll be interesting to run them back to back.
My Gen1's are 550/350 so a lot softer than your set up. What will you order for springs on Xida?
Ordered 900/500 springs for the Xidas to replace the 550/350s that came on them. Gen2s.
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#1473
2.5" main to 60mm helper
Just did this quickly.
Enables a 2.5" main spring to be coupled to a 60mm helper (ie raceland red helper). Still fits over the bilstein.
I'll get them SLA'd or grown if I can.
I can output an .iges or whatever if someone wants to print them on their home 3d.
I suppose they could be CNC'd but that'd be overkill - I think just abs would be fine for these.
Done on alias.
Enables a 2.5" main spring to be coupled to a 60mm helper (ie raceland red helper). Still fits over the bilstein.
I'll get them SLA'd or grown if I can.
I can output an .iges or whatever if someone wants to print them on their home 3d.
I suppose they could be CNC'd but that'd be overkill - I think just abs would be fine for these.
Done on alias.
#1475
I'm just replacing my plastic ones (no idea what material exaclty) with the alloy ones I posted above, precisely because plastic isn't strong enough. The lip that retains the spring has been damaged / crushed / snapped by spring movement on 3 of 4 them - and only over a few hundred miles of usage.
#1476
They're 20mm according to them.
I actually currently have 1" hats essentially identical to what you made on the front of my car, but the diameter is a touch big and i didn't feel like doing the work to make them fit my nicer car. I run/ran 1" front, 1.5" rear.
Rundown of my setup:
MSM bilsteins revalved by Two Six Motorsports
Bauer sleeves/perches
Cut down Integra Speedthane bumpstops (medium)
Energy suspension spring isolator
Eibach sliders
Hyperco CS100 4" "zero rate" tenders
Hyperco 6" springs, 850lb front, 500lb rear.
I'm swapping them out for Xidas. I do not anticipate any real performance difference, and from full droop to full available compression, it has more travel than the Xidas. (Not necessarily relevant, it doesn't actually use all of it due to spring rates and ride height) I've driven this setup and Xidas back to back and actually feel that at identical spring rates, the Bilstein setup is a bit more controlled at high speed mid corner bumps, but there's some other differences between subject cars that i'm contributing to the "noise." I'm swapping only to save weight.
I actually currently have 1" hats essentially identical to what you made on the front of my car, but the diameter is a touch big and i didn't feel like doing the work to make them fit my nicer car. I run/ran 1" front, 1.5" rear.
Rundown of my setup:
MSM bilsteins revalved by Two Six Motorsports
Bauer sleeves/perches
Cut down Integra Speedthane bumpstops (medium)
Energy suspension spring isolator
Eibach sliders
Hyperco CS100 4" "zero rate" tenders
Hyperco 6" springs, 850lb front, 500lb rear.
I'm swapping them out for Xidas. I do not anticipate any real performance difference, and from full droop to full available compression, it has more travel than the Xidas. (Not necessarily relevant, it doesn't actually use all of it due to spring rates and ride height) I've driven this setup and Xidas back to back and actually feel that at identical spring rates, the Bilstein setup is a bit more controlled at high speed mid corner bumps, but there's some other differences between subject cars that i'm contributing to the "noise." I'm swapping only to save weight.
#1478
Do I "actually" know? humm, the Raceland reds are flat wire helpers also, a dime a dozen used on ebay and go to flat (coil bind) at the static weight of the car. They have zero effect on spring rate other than to hold the mains in place when they extend. That's interesting you found helpers for $28 in 2.5"? Really decent price.
#1479
I'm just replacing my plastic ones (no idea what material exaclty) with the alloy ones I posted above, precisely because plastic isn't strong enough. The lip that retains the spring has been damaged / crushed / snapped by spring movement on 3 of 4 them - and only over a few hundred miles of usage.
I can get the math data I did done in a variety of materials but you've got me concerned. I have run OTS plastic couplers for years with no issues, and plastic retainers.
You've got some strange lateral loads if the vertical lips are breaking. Could the mains be over extending beyond the length of the helpers and crashing back down on the couplers? Helpers not long enough?
#1480
Where did you get them from? Odd. Any chance that the lip is catching on something or shifting?
I can get the math data I did done in a variety of materials but you've got me concerned. I have run OTS plastic couplers for years with no issues, and plastic retainers.
You've got some strange lateral loads if the vertical lips are breaking. Could the mains be over extending beyond the length of the helpers and crashing back down on the couplers? Helpers not long enough?
I can get the math data I did done in a variety of materials but you've got me concerned. I have run OTS plastic couplers for years with no issues, and plastic retainers.
You've got some strange lateral loads if the vertical lips are breaking. Could the mains be over extending beyond the length of the helpers and crashing back down on the couplers? Helpers not long enough?
The helpers were compressed/under load at full droop (not much point to them otherwise) when I installed at a rough guess of the right ride height, but now you've suggested it I guess it is possible I lowered it enough after that, that the springs were no longer in contact at full droop.