Trackspeed Stage 2 VVT shortblock, EFR6758, E85, 452whp/427wtq@26psi. I'm scared.
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I have been trying to decide if I should get real slicks or get street/strip tires. It would be nice to be able to drive them to the track. Either way, I will enter comp rod or jackpot class when you show up so we can race together. You can crash in my guest room after if you want, should be no problem parking on a week night.
If you wouldn't mind sending me a link to a dw300 and regulator package when you have a chance, that would be nice.
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I think the the car has 10’s in it easy (well maybe not THAT easy). Start thinking more in the 1.5 60’ range. I went a 1.71 with less than 250 hp and 1.81 with 180 hp naturally aspirated setup. Don’t be disappointed if it doesn’t happen right off the bat. It will take practice and a little tweaking. It took me a while to get everything working properly.
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I was trawling old threads and found this. I just thought it was apt to post it on this thread.
Outside of miatas, I've heard several things about different forged pistons. In general, people say the Wiseco's take forever to break in, and if you don't break them in you can crack them. But, if you break them in right, then they're indestructable.
On the other hand, JE's break in quick and work great, but they aren't as strong as the Wisecos, though still really strong.
But that's just what I've heard from different racers over the years. If I buy pistons, I'll buy Wiseco.
And sav, why 9.5? Isn't 9:1 plenty? If I buy pistons, they will be 8:1, not 9:1, and damn sure not 9.5:1.
On the other hand, JE's break in quick and work great, but they aren't as strong as the Wisecos, though still really strong.
But that's just what I've heard from different racers over the years. If I buy pistons, I'll buy Wiseco.
And sav, why 9.5? Isn't 9:1 plenty? If I buy pistons, they will be 8:1, not 9:1, and damn sure not 9.5:1.
Response. I'm going to stick with either this turbo, or a 2560 if I get a good deal on one. After driving a 500whp C5Z, I have no aspirations for 300whp anymore. I'm going to build my motor to be a responsive bulletproof 240-250whp machine and pick up a Vette in 2 or 3 years. You can easily do 240-250whp on 9.5:1, and the higher compression will give me more response and more torque off boost.
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My how times change. We learned our lesson with high comp vs. low comp about 5 years ago with the GT2871R. Low comp = moar better.
I think I've mentioned it here before, but if I didn't have a business-facing motivation to push my parts to the limit and demonstrate their ability, I probably wouldn't have played with the 6758. I personally think the 6258 drives better, and you really can't use more than 325whp in a Miata on the street. I always push people into the 6258 if they are on the fence. If I were just building it for myself, I would have a 6258 with ~275whp on gas and ~325whp on E85 and I would be totally happy. The 415whp map is silly fun and I'm glad I get to play with it, but it's really hard to use it under 70mph and that makes the whole car seem a lot less approachable.
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My how times change. We learned our lesson with high comp vs. low comp about 5 years ago with the GT2871R. Low comp = moar better.
I think I've mentioned it here before, but if I didn't have a business-facing motivation to push my parts to the limit and demonstrate their ability, I probably wouldn't have played with the 6758. I personally think the 6258 drives better, and you really can't use more than 325whp in a Miata on the street. I always push people into the 6258 if they are on the fence. If I were just building it for myself, I would have a 6258 with ~275whp on gas and ~325whp on E85 and I would be totally happy. The 415whp map is silly fun and I'm glad I get to play with it, but it's really hard to use it under 70mph and that makes the whole car seem a lot less approachable.
That said, I've seen so many awesome things posted where folks like you were learning the ropes and it's just kind of awesome to see for multiple reasons. For instance, look at how far you've come in a few years. I think it's pretty remarkable how much more we know about these cars now and how much further we're able to push them. The NA's had been out for almost 20 years when you posted the items above. They've been out for almost 30 years now and we're still optimizing them.
I just think that's pretty cool.
On the flip side, it definitely shows why noobs like me get slightly overwhelmed with the amount of information at times. You had been working with miatas for how long when you posted that in 2008? 10 years later, you've learned a ton. It's hard to condense the knowledge that comes with experience into a statement as simple as "do xyz build for zyx goals". It's devoid of all the... "well yeah, I tried that half cocked idea you have right now that you think is novel a decade ago and it worked awesome/failed spectacularly and this other option is best for all these reasons." I.e. it's hard to bridge the theory -> application gap without experience... which is why you wanted 250hp 10 years ago and are now capable of builds like this now. It's also why folks (should) pay for your expertise when they order parts or spec builds from. You, emilio, etc etc etc have blown all the motors that the end user might think are a good idea... you've done the homework for them.
TLDR; It's cool that we're still learning so much more about cars that are almost 30 years old...
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I think you can get by with just a drive shaft loop. I have been thinking about a simple one that clamps to the PPF with a shackle bolt and some nyloc nuts. Just be sure to bring a fire rated jacket or suit, otherwise they won't let you race at all with an aftermarket turbo. No need to tell them you think you might run 10's. They will think it's similar to my car until it runs, even other turbo Miatas are usually slow.
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Savington, I just realized that everytime you build one of these motors with supertechs, you have them coated. Don't they have a coating from the factory to decrease skirt wear etc? Or do you just prefer your own blend for it?
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Yes, the content/context is that they come pre coated from the factory.
Guess I misread the phosphate coating as a heat coating...
https://www.supertechperformance.com/surface-finish-tp127#ribbon
Guess I misread the phosphate coating as a heat coating...
https://www.supertechperformance.com/surface-finish-tp127#ribbon
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1st post of this thread, 5th line of text. Read the content! Seems like you misread lots of things, or perhaps you misunderstand the purpose of thermal rejection and anti-friction coatings.