ME221 and FM221 rip off DRAMA....NOW WITH 60% less RIP Hydra?
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I've used various MS units over the past 8 years, they've been around before you were even in the business of ecu's. Don't try to compare your company to theirs and compare all your "lack of issues" to their "issues".
You've not been around long enough to make claims like that. Only time will tell how your ecu/unit will do, and no amount of PR and self-praise from you will change that right now.
lol again, I'm not doing your job for you. The issues we heard about are posted here.
Being an ecu builder I'd hope you have the brainpower to search forum(s).
You've not been around long enough to make claims like that. Only time will tell how your ecu/unit will do, and no amount of PR and self-praise from you will change that right now.
lol again, I'm not doing your job for you. The issues we heard about are posted here.
Being an ecu builder I'd hope you have the brainpower to search forum(s).
And, like you, I have every right to compare my company to theirs - I did, with real numbers, and facts about RMAs, support, UK tuners using it and dumping MS, what have you presented? Nothing but threats of a ban if/when you lose the argument....
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I'll leave it there anyway, and await the independant review from the user - welcome to the world of the 221 - both us and FM are here if you need support
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Because your friend 18psi commented on its value, mainly.
Every now and then I do a littler web search for ME221 etc, and on the miata turbo site there is always a comment from him somewhere - I was mainly intrigued as to what I did to offend him - seems I have to look it up though lol
-18psi - in terms of being under a different, I am unable to login on the ME one - I hardly tired to hide my identity though, should of gone with 19psi as a user name for giggles
Every now and then I do a littler web search for ME221 etc, and on the miata turbo site there is always a comment from him somewhere - I was mainly intrigued as to what I did to offend him - seems I have to look it up though lol
-18psi - in terms of being under a different, I am unable to login on the ME one - I hardly tired to hide my identity though, should of gone with 19psi as a user name for giggles
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As I said, you have no argument to make - this is evident by you claiming to know how long I have been involved in ECUs for, which, you don't. Never assume my friend....
And, like you, I have every right to compare my company to theirs - I did, with real numbers, and facts about RMAs, support, UK tuners using it and dumping MS, what have you presented? Nothing but threats of a ban if/when you lose the argument....
Even if this does get deleted and banned etc, I will view this forum and your posts with a smile from this point forward ![](https://www.miataturbo.net/images/smilies/smile.gif)
I'll leave it there anyway, and await the independant review from the user - welcome to the world of the 221 - both us and FM are here if you need support![](https://www.miataturbo.net/images/smilies/smile.gif)
And, like you, I have every right to compare my company to theirs - I did, with real numbers, and facts about RMAs, support, UK tuners using it and dumping MS, what have you presented? Nothing but threats of a ban if/when you lose the argument....
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I'll leave it there anyway, and await the independant review from the user - welcome to the world of the 221 - both us and FM are here if you need support
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I'm an independent user. You're arguing with me and crying like a little baby because I brought up issues with your ecu when it was being developed. Which you agreed with, just a few posts up.
Let's be really clear, once again, since you can't read: the ONLY reason you're not already permanently banned is because I gave you an opportunity to not be a crybaby and participate in this discussion. You're actually doing a really good job of making yourself look like a self-praising crybaby instead of an industry professional.
Because your friend 18psi commented on its value, mainly.
Every now and then I do a littler web search for ME221 etc, and on the miata turbo site there is always a comment from him somewhere - I was mainly intrigued as to what I did to offend him - seems I have to look it up though lol
Every now and then I do a littler web search for ME221 etc, and on the miata turbo site there is always a comment from him somewhere - I was mainly intrigued as to what I did to offend him - seems I have to look it up though lol
Grow up. If you want to actually get info you wouldn't be here crying that everyone is mean, you'd be looking up threads to see why we formulated this opinion about this unit.
But here we are....
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But don't worry, I'm quoting this post for the giggles
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I am up for participating, I asked you to list the issues so they could be addressed - I have searched on here and there is not a myraid of threads, hence my confusion.... why can;t you just put a simple list? Its easier than arguing is it not?
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Like this one (ssr\ching ME221) - its about MS, and ends with a guy recommending it - see my point, I either don;t know how to use this forum or I am missing something??? Maybe access rights as new user??
https://www.miataturbo.net/diy-turbo...e-89533/page2/
https://www.miataturbo.net/diy-turbo...e-89533/page2/
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As I said, you have no argument to make - this is evident by you claiming to know how long I have been involved in ECUs for, which, you don't. Never assume my friend....
And, like you, I have every right to compare my company to theirs - I did, with real numbers, and facts about RMAs, support, UK tuners using it and dumping MS, what have you presented? Nothing but threats of a ban if/when you lose the argument....
Even if this does get deleted and banned etc, I will view this forum and your posts with a smile from this point forward ![](https://www.miataturbo.net/images/smilies/smile.gif)
I'll leave it there anyway, and await the independant review from the user - welcome to the world of the 221 - both us and FM are here if you need support![](https://www.miataturbo.net/images/smilies/smile.gif)
And, like you, I have every right to compare my company to theirs - I did, with real numbers, and facts about RMAs, support, UK tuners using it and dumping MS, what have you presented? Nothing but threats of a ban if/when you lose the argument....
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/images/smilies/smile.gif)
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I'll leave it there anyway, and await the independant review from the user - welcome to the world of the 221 - both us and FM are here if you need support
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Because your friend 18psi commented on its value, mainly.
Every now and then I do a littler web search for ME221 etc, and on the miata turbo site there is always a comment from him somewhere - I was mainly intrigued as to what I did to offend him - seems I have to look it up though lol
-18psi - in terms of being under a different, I am unable to login on the ME one - I hardly tired to hide my identity though, should of gone with 19psi as a user name for giggles![](https://www.miataturbo.net/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Every now and then I do a littler web search for ME221 etc, and on the miata turbo site there is always a comment from him somewhere - I was mainly intrigued as to what I did to offend him - seems I have to look it up though lol
-18psi - in terms of being under a different, I am unable to login on the ME one - I hardly tired to hide my identity though, should of gone with 19psi as a user name for giggles
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As I said I think my user access (maybe I cannot see certain sections) of the forum means I can;t see all the ECU issues we apparently have - apologies if that's the case, I await links, still
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https://www.miataturbo.net/general-m...t-start-91948/
They are few and far between as you weren't around for very long yourself before getting banned.
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No, you just suck at searching.
https://www.miataturbo.net/general-m...t-start-91948/
They are few and far between as you weren't around for very long yourself before getting banned.
https://www.miataturbo.net/general-m...t-start-91948/
They are few and far between as you weren't around for very long yourself before getting banned.
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Here, in the manual
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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...rAFn5ug0/edit#
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That one I believe I address above as 18psi linked to a chap called Elior - and the user manual explains how to make the FP work properly on the AFM based FP trigger cars - diagnostic link is a get you running method, which is what we did with the customer, and the manual does explain the correct solution.... null point... next... ![](https://www.miataturbo.net/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Here, in the manual
The customer chose to call us so we just told him what to do on the phone, and his car immediatly sprang to life
Also, note, the 1st page of manual details this common issue, and where to get get help...
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...rAFn5ug0/edit#
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Here, in the manual
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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...rAFn5ug0/edit#
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Yeh No - Miata Turbo Forum - Boost cars, acquire cats. - View Profile: Ciaranmx5cork Do you even link bro?
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Anyway, this has been fun, and I think theres not much I can add anyway - time to get back on with the wideband development
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BTW - if I am allowed to hang around, I am happy to aid with ME221 support, though of course our susual support channels of phone, tickets or our ME Users facebook page are the preferred method of comms! Cheers
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Also, note, the 1st page of manual details this common issue, and where to get get help...
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...rAFn5ug0/edit#
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...rAFn5ug0/edit#
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Your hands look identical to the guy from DIYAutotune. @Ben I think.
MegaSquirtPNP by DIYAutoTune.com
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Like this one (ssr\ching ME221) - its about MS, and ends with a guy recommending it - see my point, I either don;t know how to use this forum or I am missing something??? Maybe access rights as new user??
https://www.miataturbo.net/diy-turbo...e-89533/page2/
https://www.miataturbo.net/diy-turbo...e-89533/page2/
i prefer searching for the posts were you guys couldn't figure out how a DIYPNP worked, then went on to copy a DIYPNP...
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Copied it right down to the manual pics? Shame they didn't give credit for all the creative and intellectual property they used. That says something about character, too.
So that's two things I don't like about him, since I'm making a list.
So that's two things I don't like about him, since I'm making a list.
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It took me all of about ten minutes looking at their early pre-production unit in Colorado to realize they'd... borrowed heavily... from the MS world.
I made my feelings known immediately.
The people in charge didn't seem to care.
There are many reasons why I'm not in Colorado anymore. This whole ME221 project was the biggest reason.
I made my feelings known immediately.
The people in charge didn't seem to care.
There are many reasons why I'm not in Colorado anymore. This whole ME221 project was the biggest reason.
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Well they actually started by counterfeiting megasquirt boards. So it makes sense.
Megasquirt clones, copies and counterfeits - Megasquirt EFI
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