TSE EFR NB2 Build Thread
#421
oh. It seemed like they would need a bit more than a hammer but ok. The other issue is that I need the car back in the road asap, and the hub I have with me right now, I don't have Arp wheel studs/ 949 lug nuts or the tool to install them. So I will swap the hub to be the car in the road and do the studs when I have time
The ghetto way to remove them is with a hammer, a couple whacks with a 2-3 pound sledge and they come right out.
Ghetto installation is to pull them in with a nut. Andrew says not to do this because it can theoretically spin the splines in the hole in the hub, but a lot of people do it this way and get away with it. If you're going to do this, you want to make sure to lube up the splines first, go slow, and do it by hand. You'll also want conical washer that matches the cone on the lug nut, and make sure that the are enough washers underneath that one that the nut isn't going to bottom out on the threads before the stud is pulled in all the way.
The ghetto approach can be done on the car without removing the hub, although I'm a little leery of loading the bearing whacking it with a hammer like that. Getting the studs into the back of the hub when the factory brake dust shields are installed is also tricky, IIRC there's one location where it fits but you need to fiddle with it a bunch. (my factory dust shields departed the car a long time ago).
--Ian
#429
So I just placed an order for a set of 949 aluminum lugs and ARP studs. Ian got me thinking though, do I really want aluminum lugs? I have done some searching online and have heard both sides. I use an impact to take off the lug nuts but I always hand tighten then use a torque wrench when putting them on.
949s sight says that they will work with an impact but I don't want to spend $60 to have them strip or fall off. Im not sure why 949 would sell them if they are dangerous. But idk, I've just heard some bad things about them and don't want to have another wheel fly off. So, let me know what you guys think.
949s sight says that they will work with an impact but I don't want to spend $60 to have them strip or fall off. Im not sure why 949 would sell them if they are dangerous. But idk, I've just heard some bad things about them and don't want to have another wheel fly off. So, let me know what you guys think.
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#430
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I wouldn't worry about it unless you're changing wheels frequently, and you're breaking them loose with the gun. I've got a set of 949 lugs that I've been using since 2009. Other than showing obvious signs of use where the black coating has been nicked etc, they are fine. I impact them on before torquing, and on removal I break them with the bar before spinning them off with the impact as my electric impact won't quite break loose a fully tightened lug nut.
Granted I have not been replacing tires daily for the last 8 years, but I don't see anything on the lug nuts to indicate I need to think about not using them any more, or change how I am using the.
Granted I have not been replacing tires daily for the last 8 years, but I don't see anything on the lug nuts to indicate I need to think about not using them any more, or change how I am using the.
#431
I spent a few years autoxing my Miata regularly, which meant at least 2 wheel swaps a month, sometimes more. That's frequently enough that I didn't want to have to fuss around with the lugs -- with the steel lugs I can buzz them off, buzz them on, then hand-torque with the torque wrench and nothing to worry about.
I'm sure the 949 ones are fine, certainly they're not dangerous.
--Ian
I'm sure the 949 ones are fine, certainly they're not dangerous.
--Ian
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I ran the same set of 949 lugs on Theseus from the beginning of 2007 to the end of 2011. That was back when they were only half-threaded. A couple of those are still floating around in my spares box and they work perfectly. The same set has been on Rover since we built that in 2010 and they're still in use. Impact on (to 60ft.lb then torque wrench to 80), impact off, every time. No problems.
Buy 949 lugs, sleep well at night.
Buy 949 lugs, sleep well at night.
#434
If you REALLY don't want to remove the hubs to install the studs, is there any problem with using one of the clamp style presses aside from them being a pain in the *** compared to a hydraulic press?
Personally, I don't really relish pulling my hubs unless I am replacing them. Maybe i'm crying over a simple job?
Either way - any issues with using a clamp style? You can usually borrow them with deposit from auto parts stores.
Personally, I don't really relish pulling my hubs unless I am replacing them. Maybe i'm crying over a simple job?
Either way - any issues with using a clamp style? You can usually borrow them with deposit from auto parts stores.
#435
Taking the fronts off is easy. 36mm socket, good impact wrench, rattle-rattle-rattle-ZING it's off. The rears are a bit more of a PITA if they've never been apart before because the axles are probably seized into the hubs.
--Ian
#437
I really doubt there's enough access behind it to get one of those clamps in there.
Taking the fronts off is easy. 36mm socket, good impact wrench, rattle-rattle-rattle-ZING it's off. The rears are a bit more of a PITA if they've never been apart before because the axles are probably seized into the hubs.
--Ian
Taking the fronts off is easy. 36mm socket, good impact wrench, rattle-rattle-rattle-ZING it's off. The rears are a bit more of a PITA if they've never been apart before because the axles are probably seized into the hubs.
--Ian