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Old 10-20-2016 | 02:48 PM
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They did mention that they tuned VVT.
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Make me wonder how much work they put into tuning VVT. I know they had to cut a lot out due to time. They certainly can't show us the entire tuning process but it seems like they left a bit on the table. I mean, people with Megasquirts are getting measurable improvements all throughout the rev range vs the stock ecu.

I would also like to see them turn the boost up after doing their side by side test. Bring it up to the limits of the stock motor and then see how they feel.
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My guess is oem vvt settings or similar, not much detail was given.
Old 10-20-2016 | 03:36 PM
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OEM settings are fine, but how did they compute/duplicate the OEM (VVT) settings? We figured it out here, but did the tuner find the info and translate our maps or did he start from scratch? I guess it doesn't matter. I am just curious.
Old 10-20-2016 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 18psi
A dyno is just a tool. It can read high, it can read low, all that matters is the difference between baseline and final plots.

So yes, you are the only one.
I know they sold NBs with a 1.6L engine in Europe -- which one did Australia get?

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Old 10-20-2016 | 06:32 PM
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I posted that once before. It made me LOL. Just like this debate does every single time it is raised. #DeadHorseIsDeadThereIsNoNeedToKeepBeatingIt.
Old 10-20-2016 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by zerogt86
Am I the only one surprised by the dyno number for the stock red car (before turbo). Shouldn't it have been higher than that, with the Haltech ECU? Don't most VVT NA motors put down 10-20 more hp than that?
Quoting myself again here..

"A common Aussie joke when talking about a build someone saw online is as follows:

"Lol, 400 american horsepower, amirite?"

Your dynos read way higher than ours do."

Its like 5 posts above yours.
Old 10-20-2016 | 07:47 PM
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Both cars are 1.8L.

Haltech has had VVT maps on their basemap for years and years, Ive fucked with them and havnt achieved anything better than their base.

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Old 10-20-2016 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by nitrodann
Both cars are 1.8L.

Haltech has had VVT maps on their basemap for years and years, Ive fucked with them and havnt achieved anything better than their base.

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Thanks for the verification Dann
Old 10-20-2016 | 09:28 PM
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They cant have tried very hard on the N/A tune. They made the same power as the factory mazda tune. And we all know mazda cant tune for ****.
Old 10-20-2016 | 10:17 PM
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Jesus Christ. Does nobody read?
Old 10-20-2016 | 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by TNTUBA
Sometimes when you take two things that are different and you combine them....you end up with the best of both worlds.

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Yep. The PD blower is great on the low end. The turbo rocks the top. They gang up on the middle.

So ... BOTH

of course, it breaks a lot.
Old 10-20-2016 | 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Leafy
They cant have tried very hard on the N/A tune. They made the same power as the factory mazda tune. And we all know mazda cant tune for ****.
This wasnt n/a with full bolt ons before and after ecu, this was dead stock before and after.
Old 10-21-2016 | 12:51 AM
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Nitrodan,
Has anyone ever used your turbo manifold on a left hand drive maita?
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No, However I have plenty of pics to show fitment on engine out of the bay
Old 10-21-2016 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Ted75zcar
Yep. The PD blower is great on the low end. The turbo rocks the top. They gang up on the middle.

So ... BOTH

of course, it breaks a lot.
Old 10-21-2016 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by nitrodann
Quoting myself again here..

"A common Aussie joke when talking about a build someone saw online is as follows:

"Lol, 400 american horsepower, amirite?"

Your dynos read way higher than ours do."

Its like 5 posts above yours.
I did see that, but I wanted to post to see if anyone had any more insight. Either way, its cool to see them do this!
Old 10-21-2016 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Leafy
They cant have tried very hard on the N/A tune. They made the same power as the factory mazda tune. And we all know mazda cant tune for ****.
What makes you say that?
I think the European / Japanese / Australian 1.8 S-VT are pretty well tuned from the factory.
Please remember those engines have much better intake and exhaust manifolds than the USDM counterpart and I would not be surprised if that (along with the more strict emission regulations) threw off the tune for the USDM car.
Old 10-21-2016 | 05:44 PM
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I can say that out of the 40 whp I gained going bolt ons / ms3, 25-30 whp was tuning alone, if not more.
And I have the allofit nb2 with squaretop and all.
Stock tune is **** anywhere in the world.
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