Miata cooling system thread
#441
Probably for this:
Big Bend Open Road Race
Similar to the Silver-State Classic.
Yeah, not KISS. More like PPPGE (****-Poor Pseudo German Engineering). But as long as you can push it off the road and still join the party that night, who cares?
Big Bend Open Road Race
Similar to the Silver-State Classic.
Yeah, not KISS. More like PPPGE (****-Poor Pseudo German Engineering). But as long as you can push it off the road and still join the party that night, who cares?
#443
"Definitely not the KISS approach to cooling, seems like there is now more than twice the components and connections to fail."
May I suggest you stay with four cylinder motors. The additional complexity of a 5 or 6 might drive you batty. Lord help you if you buy a V12.
Consider:
If one carries the "kiss" approach to the logical conclusion, it all remains stock and you don't win the race.
Frontal area of the heat exchanger is the biggest single factor in cooling.
Heat exchange area gets larger with fatter rad cores, but with increasing thickness, LESS air passes through the core.
Any given radiator core's volume is only about 25% water.
If one can competently assemble 15 coolant connections, he can also assemble 15 more with the same degree of competence.
The coolest coolant introduced into the hottest points on the motor has some logic to it, in my view.
And also:
Yes, it was for the west Texas race. This is not a track race of on/off throttle operation.
Rather it will require one hour at full boost and at the redline. To do such, twice the stock power is needed, but only 25% more cooling air is available if the frontal area of the heat exchanger remains stock.
corky
May I suggest you stay with four cylinder motors. The additional complexity of a 5 or 6 might drive you batty. Lord help you if you buy a V12.
Consider:
If one carries the "kiss" approach to the logical conclusion, it all remains stock and you don't win the race.
Frontal area of the heat exchanger is the biggest single factor in cooling.
Heat exchange area gets larger with fatter rad cores, but with increasing thickness, LESS air passes through the core.
Any given radiator core's volume is only about 25% water.
If one can competently assemble 15 coolant connections, he can also assemble 15 more with the same degree of competence.
The coolest coolant introduced into the hottest points on the motor has some logic to it, in my view.
And also:
Yes, it was for the west Texas race. This is not a track race of on/off throttle operation.
Rather it will require one hour at full boost and at the redline. To do such, twice the stock power is needed, but only 25% more cooling air is available if the frontal area of the heat exchanger remains stock.
corky
#444
This would be interesting to properly instrument. My personal experience, with an NB2, is that there is airflow through that gap into the engine bay. During pollen season I would notice a lot coming through there. I ran weatherstrip along the bottom of the hood to seal it off. It's a 15 minute job to fix it. Use black rtv; the weatherstripping glue can't handle the environment.
#445
Exocet re-route
I'm using the 949Racing re-route kit on an engine that is going to be installed in an Exocet.
I am wondering whether I am able to block the heater inlet/outlet at the mixing manifold and at the new rear housing, completely removing the heater loop. This will mean I can lose the hardline water pipe that runs along under the exhaust manifold all together, and will need to come up with a solution to block the two ports mentioned above.
Anyone done this...pics would be great. TIA!
I am wondering whether I am able to block the heater inlet/outlet at the mixing manifold and at the new rear housing, completely removing the heater loop. This will mean I can lose the hardline water pipe that runs along under the exhaust manifold all together, and will need to come up with a solution to block the two ports mentioned above.
Anyone done this...pics would be great. TIA!
#453
I run 3 holes 3/16" dia., the same as this hflow one has so if the temp doesn't warm up enough on cold mornings I don't worry much. Sometimes I put a little duct tape on the construction cloth grill which also helps front down force. I forgot to mention I tried running that stat but the whole bottom is what opens [the brass can you see] and the taper on the M-tuned stat housing won't let it open very much.
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#454
The House Cat cooling is coming right along. While the coolant reroute helps, we're closing off more of the front air intakes because too much air is making it into the engine bay. The two side inlets are getting rerouted to the front brakes, and two hood vents will be added to help evacuate the air. Instead of being right behind the radiator, they're higher on the hood where there's some good low pressure air that will help suck out the heat.
The new House Cat coolant reroute includes a swirl pot at the firewall.
This plumbing isn't finished, but shows the simple location of the coolant pipes. The 1.25" aluminum tube will be bolted down with a couple of P clips.
There's some good low pressure at the back of the hood.
The vent is right over the turbo, so radiated heat has a direct escape route when the car is off.
The new House Cat coolant reroute includes a swirl pot at the firewall.
This plumbing isn't finished, but shows the simple location of the coolant pipes. The 1.25" aluminum tube will be bolted down with a couple of P clips.
There's some good low pressure at the back of the hood.
The vent is right over the turbo, so radiated heat has a direct escape route when the car is off.
#456
The House Cat cooling is coming right along. While the coolant reroute helps, we're closing off more of the front air intakes because too much air is making it into the engine bay. The two side inlets are getting rerouted to the front brakes, and two hood vents will be added to help evacuate the air. Instead of being right behind the radiator, they're higher on the hood where there's some good low pressure air that will help suck out the heat.
The new House Cat coolant reroute includes a swirl pot at the firewall.
This plumbing isn't finished, but shows the simple location of the coolant pipes. The 1.25" aluminum tube will be bolted down with a couple of P clips.
There's some good low pressure at the back of the hood.
The vent is right over the turbo, so radiated heat has a direct escape route when the car is off.
The new House Cat coolant reroute includes a swirl pot at the firewall.
This plumbing isn't finished, but shows the simple location of the coolant pipes. The 1.25" aluminum tube will be bolted down with a couple of P clips.
There's some good low pressure at the back of the hood.
The vent is right over the turbo, so radiated heat has a direct escape route when the car is off.
Can I ask where you got that cool vent from?
Last edited by sixshooter; 03-28-2016 at 08:52 AM.