Is wire wire?
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Is wire wire?
I am looking at new battery wire for the car. Better grounds, and better power transmission being the goal. In looking around for 2 AWG wire, I have found lots of different stuff, from Monster Cable to wire from the battery store. It is all listed as 2 AWG but some have more / smaller strands than others to make up the size. The outer coatings are different as well. I know I don't want one solid strand of copper, but is there a noticeable difference in one over the other? There sure is a difference in price.
Function over form is the rule here, which is why this is in the track prep forum rather than the stereo and what wax to use on the door jam site.
Function over form is the rule here, which is why this is in the track prep forum rather than the stereo and what wax to use on the door jam site.
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To a pretty big degree, yeah copper wire is copper wire. You want to make sure that the jacket is automotive grade, and higher strand counts will offer increased flexibility.
That aside, 2ga? Man, that's insane! That's like 2.5x the cross section of 4 ga, which is already overkill.
I think replacing your wiring with 2ga will do nothing but make the car heavier, but perhaps that will be offset by the lightening of your wallet! There's no reason I can think of to run 2ga from the battery up.
That aside, 2ga? Man, that's insane! That's like 2.5x the cross section of 4 ga, which is already overkill.
I think replacing your wiring with 2ga will do nothing but make the car heavier, but perhaps that will be offset by the lightening of your wallet! There's no reason I can think of to run 2ga from the battery up.
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What Bruce said. There is a phenomenon known as skin effect that can require a high strand count in certain high frequency applications... that has absolutely nothing to do with this use.
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To a pretty big degree, yeah copper wire is copper wire. You want to make sure that the jacket is automotive grade, and higher strand counts will offer increased flexibility.
That aside, 2ga? Man, that's insane! That's like 2.5x the cross section of 4 ga, which is already overkill.
I think replacing your wiring with 2ga will do nothing but make the car heavier, but perhaps that will be offset by the lightening of your wallet! There's no reason I can think of to run 2ga from the battery up.
That aside, 2ga? Man, that's insane! That's like 2.5x the cross section of 4 ga, which is already overkill.
I think replacing your wiring with 2ga will do nothing but make the car heavier, but perhaps that will be offset by the lightening of your wallet! There's no reason I can think of to run 2ga from the battery up.
Am I reading from the wrong column and need to be looking at the maximum amps for chassis wiring?
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Here is a much better resource, that actually takes wire length in account.
http://www.stealth316.com/2-wire-resistance.htm
8ga is ok for a miata. 4ga is overkill.
http://www.stealth316.com/2-wire-resistance.htm
8ga is ok for a miata. 4ga is overkill.
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Solid core for AC, as many strands as possible for DC is what I was told and have been practicing so far.
AC travels in the core, and DC travels on the surface of the wire.
4ga, if it is quality wire, should be plenty IMHO.
AC travels in the core, and DC travels on the surface of the wire.
4ga, if it is quality wire, should be plenty IMHO.
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At high frequencies, this is an issue. 60Hz is not a high frequency. Solid-core wire is used for household AC because it is cheaper to manufacture, easier to terminate, and has a greater current-carrying capacity per actual diameter, and since houses tend not to move much (well, apart from here in CA) the flexibility afforded by stranded wire is simply not needed.
The only places where you'll typically find stranded wire in mains-level AC use are where you are feeding a high-current load (such as an electric oven) and a solid wire of sufficient size would simply be unbendable, and where you actually do have to accommodate movement, such as when controls are mounted on a hinged panel or when you have a large motor set upon a vibration-absorbing mount which permits it to move as it operates.
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Check out waytechwire.com, under GPT primary wire. It is great stuff, full automotive grade coating, and not much $$. We use it on our FSAE car and love it.
EDIT: look under SGT or SGX for battery cable
EDIT: look under SGT or SGX for battery cable
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