Tow vehicle
#202
Yeah, a lot of the MPG gains on the newer trucks probably wont translate to towing, especially if you're going to be pulling an enclosed. It is funny looking at people talking about towing enclosed trailers they all get ~10mpg whether its a 70's 454 carbureted chevy or a 2012 dodge hemi or anything in between.
I'd still rather have the ecoboost v6 for towing than the 5.0, !the same gas mileage while towing but way better mileage when unloaded. And MOAR torque.
I'd still rather have the ecoboost v6 for towing than the 5.0, !the same gas mileage while towing but way better mileage when unloaded. And MOAR torque.
So theoretically the EcoBoost is the better choice, but I'm dubious about their longterm durability given all the Intercooler/stalling problems. And that's ignoring the MASSIVE amount of heat (from always being in boost while towing) that is likely to cook all the wiring/hoses underneath the hood.
#203
So theoretically the EcoBoost is the better choice, but I'm dubious about their longterm durability given all the Intercooler/stalling problems. And that's ignoring the MASSIVE amount of heat (from always being in boost while towing) that is likely to cook all the wiring/hoses underneath the hood.
#204
I've really been thinking about one of these to house the car in.
7x12 Enclosed Cargo Trailer Tandem Double Dual Axle Motorcycle Landscape | eBay
7x12 Enclosed Cargo Trailer Tandem Double Dual Axle Motorcycle Landscape | eBay
#205
Ecoboost stalling is only in certain conditions. Of which I have never met. Really worried, there are a couple aftermarket solutions that prevent issue. I bent one of the tubes getting my bumper off after an "opps". I'll eventually be swapping the factory intercooler out with a Full-Race one eventually because of it. Doesn't leak but now I have a decent excuses.
It is hard to hear but I dont think the engine was in high boost while towing the travel trailer (except a few instances). If you never give it lots of throttle, you can't exactly get a bunch of boost. No datalog but my foot isnt buried while towing.
It is hard to hear but I dont think the engine was in high boost while towing the travel trailer (except a few instances). If you never give it lots of throttle, you can't exactly get a bunch of boost. No datalog but my foot isnt buried while towing.
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I was doing some research on the EcoBoost V6's a few months ago and for the most part people seem very pleased with them. They are reaching the advertized fuel economy numbers with normal (not hyper mileing) style driving and no complaints of lost of towing capacity. Given I drive my '97 F150 just about every day, the bump in MPG would be a great bonus to having a new truck.
#208
It is the funniest thing to me. Diesel and Gas have been converging and will continue with that trend due to emissions. Ask people what the best engine possible is and the answer is turbo diesel. Then create a gas engine with turbo diesel properties and everyone is worried about the fancy turbo solution.
I know this will result in many :diaf: responses, but I've been having bad dreams of a 2001+ 4cyl 5sp ford ranger with homebrew turbo as a DD/tow rig. The 4cyl in those is just a 2.3l Mazda MZR. I started looking at them out of curiosity the other day and realized that brakes/drivetrain/suspension is basically identical on all the Rangers... the engine is the only thing that drops tow rating from ~6000lb to ~1500lb.
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I purchased a new, dual axle [no brakes] 7'x16' steel/wood trailer for less than $2000 from a company on the WV-OH. I will not post the company's name here for fear of being cited for advertising [even thought I have no relationship with the company]
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And the improvement from a steel trailer to an aluminum trailer is probably not worth it for someone on a budget. The way I looked at it is I could spend 2x (approx. $2500) on an aluminum trailer and save maybe 400-600 lbs total (if even that) or I can spend $2500 on a tow vehicle thats in better shape. The difference between a 8k truck and a 6k truck (locally) is significant. I am talking about years newer, mileage less, and one step up in engine. Any one of those will get you better towing capacity for the most part.
I just got lucky and found a low mileage v8 conversion van. My only complaint is the creaking and the horribly murky steering. It stops great, and I can easily maintain whatever speed I want within reason.
#212
I purchased a new, dual axle [no brakes] 7'x16' steel/wood trailer for less than $2000 from a company on the WV-OH. I will not post the company's name here for fear of being cited for advertising [even thought I have no relationship with the company]
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#216
Still, I dont understand it. My roomate's steel and wood trailer is 12xx pounds. But is from the early 90's and has 3500lb axles and brakes on both. The lightest steel trailers I can find are the all steel, open deck econoline trailers (14xx), carmate for almost the identical looking trailer is (18xx), big tex is like (20xx). And if you took the labels off you'd swear they were the exact same trailer.
#217
Different wall thickness for the steel. I just started messing around in CAD designing a lightweight miata-sized single axle trailer, and changing from 4x2x.188" steel tube to 4x2x.25" adds almost 250lb. For a heavy duty trailer with a lot of tubes like the big tex, that could easily become a 500+lb difference.
#218
Anecdotal on towing with a turbo but I pulled a 6' enclosed with my MSM for two seasons. The first year I was pulling at ~65 in 6th gear and getting mid/high teens for MPG. Watching the boost and AFR, I was always tipping into boost and dumping fuel. At some point I tried pulling in 5th at the same ~65mph which increased the revs (3.63 gears) but dropped the MAP by 8 or 10 inhg and brought the AFR back to reasonable levels. I got ~24 towing at that point which is within 5 or 6 mpg the car got at ~70 cruising without the trailer.
I don't know **** about the Ecoboost but it stands to reason you could get significantly different mileage towing with a gas turbo based on gear and cruising RPM selection. Put in a boost gauge at least and consider a wideband and see for yourself.
I don't know **** about the Ecoboost but it stands to reason you could get significantly different mileage towing with a gas turbo based on gear and cruising RPM selection. Put in a boost gauge at least and consider a wideband and see for yourself.
#219
Does anyone have any input on the 07-10 Chevy 1500s? I'd prefer a new-gen Ford, but the less I spend on a tow vehicle/DD the bigger my track budget.
I'm weary after my buddy had a massive problem with the cylinder shutdown technology. The solenoid started puking oil everywhere and running rough. Essentially when the system goes, a new oil pan/pickup/pushrods/etc all have to be replaced, basically rebuild the engine.
His mechanic seemed to intimate that it wasn't an uncommon problem, the quoted fix was $6k. They did some hackjob fix for super cheap so he could trade it in the next day.
I'm weary after my buddy had a massive problem with the cylinder shutdown technology. The solenoid started puking oil everywhere and running rough. Essentially when the system goes, a new oil pan/pickup/pushrods/etc all have to be replaced, basically rebuild the engine.
His mechanic seemed to intimate that it wasn't an uncommon problem, the quoted fix was $6k. They did some hackjob fix for super cheap so he could trade it in the next day.
#220
Does anyone have any input on the 07-10 Chevy 1500s? I'd prefer a new-gen Ford, but the less I spend on a tow vehicle/DD the bigger my track budget.
I'm weary after my buddy had a massive problem with the cylinder shutdown technology. The solenoid started puking oil everywhere and running rough. Essentially when the system goes, a new oil pan/pickup/pushrods/etc all have to be replaced, basically rebuild the engine.
His mechanic seemed to intimate that it wasn't an uncommon problem, the quoted fix was $6k. They did some hackjob fix for super cheap so he could trade it in the next day.
I'm weary after my buddy had a massive problem with the cylinder shutdown technology. The solenoid started puking oil everywhere and running rough. Essentially when the system goes, a new oil pan/pickup/pushrods/etc all have to be replaced, basically rebuild the engine.
His mechanic seemed to intimate that it wasn't an uncommon problem, the quoted fix was $6k. They did some hackjob fix for super cheap so he could trade it in the next day.