Race Prep Miata race-only chat.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

OGK

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-22-2015 | 04:20 PM
  #21  
cyotani's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,407
Total Cats: 116
From: Azusa, CA
Default

Originally Posted by emilio700
welds butt hat's
tehehe
Old 01-22-2015 | 06:34 PM
  #22  
Leafy's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 9,484
Total Cats: 104
From: NH
Default

Originally Posted by emilio700
Just the finger like interlock as seen in the picture. 5/16" grade 8 socket head cap screw through from opposite sides. The interface is designed to transfer all the loads a tube will see.

I think the only engineering compromises would be, and I'm guessing:

-A bit more weight
-The tube it's connected to would become effectively stiffer in that area which could concentrate stress unless it's accounted for, which it is in this case.
-A bit more cost
-In my case, I'll have to make some sort of rounded cover to shield the upper interface during street driving since my noggin will be nearby with the head restraints removed from the seat.
-Everything else being equal, less welds are better than more welds but that's being nit picky

I don't know who makes the connectors but I'm guessing it's some place that makes hardware for offroad/sand rails or something like that. I could see an LSx engined sand rail being easier to service with a few strategically placed connectors.
I wasnt too concerned about its strength, it looks like a damn good design. Just a bit more worried about tech inspector for xyz track club getting cranky because it doesnt look like one of the examples in the book so it must be unsafe.
Old 01-22-2015 | 09:08 PM
  #23  
emilio700's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supporting Vendor
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 7,407
Total Cats: 2,432
Default

Originally Posted by Leafy
I wasnt too concerned about its strength, it looks like a damn good design. Just a bit more worried about tech inspector for xyz track club getting cranky because it doesnt look like one of the examples in the book so it must be unsafe.
Not a big deal for me one way or another. The primary goal of this car is to give rides and general hoonage. I'll race it once or twice just because. If I can't pass SCCA or NASA tech, I won't be heart broken.
__________________


www.facebook.com/SuperMiata

949RACING.COM Home of the 6UL wheel

.31 SNR
Old 01-22-2015 | 09:31 PM
  #24  
Seefo's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 1,961
Total Cats: 48
From: Raleigh, NC
Default

Cool, looks like a fun build.
Old 01-23-2015 | 01:46 PM
  #25  
k24madness's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 1,421
Total Cats: 95
From: San Rafael, CA
Default

I think your Miata is a prime candidate for a custom windscreen.

I have thought of doing a Miata street roadster with a shortened windscreen. Something that also tapers back more. Having a blank canvas like you have there is even more appealing to start with.

Last edited by k24madness; 01-23-2015 at 05:53 PM.
Old 01-23-2015 | 02:12 PM
  #26  
emilio700's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supporting Vendor
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 7,407
Total Cats: 2,432
Default

Originally Posted by k24madness
I think your Miata is a prime candidate for a custom windscreen.

I have though of doing a Miata street roadster with a shortened windscreen. Something that also tapers back more. Having a blank canvas like you have there is even more appealing to start with.
We have a few ideas, things we 'd like to try.

-More curved front to back, more wraparound.
-Mounted on trailing edge of hood. Cover across cowl extending all the way to dash hoop.
-Little Gurney flap as kicker.
-Smoked polycarbonate
-Slotted adjustable sections that raise up a few inches for street use.
-Curved upper contour, you know, like the batmobile

We may incorporate none of these ideas, just spitballing. The idea is we'll mock some things up with thin HDPE air dam material and see what works before we commit to fabricating something permanent.
__________________


www.facebook.com/SuperMiata

949RACING.COM Home of the 6UL wheel

.31 SNR
Old 01-23-2015 | 05:59 PM
  #27  
k24madness's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 1,421
Total Cats: 95
From: San Rafael, CA
Default

Originally Posted by emilio700

-More curved front to back starting at trailing edge of hood. Cover across cowl extending all the way to dash hoop.
This!

Whatever you do having a blank slate is going to open up a LOT of potential. Going to the edge of the hood will give you rake without effecting head clearance.

Grab a 6 pack of your favorite beer and a bunch of construction paper/tape/conduit tubing and spend some time being making a template. Enjoy!
Old 01-23-2015 | 06:13 PM
  #28  
sixshooter's Avatar
Moderator
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 21,117
Total Cats: 3,142
From: Tampa, Florida
Default

Attached Thumbnails OGK-1957_mg_mga_roadster_vintage_race_car_for_sale_front_resize.jpg  
Old 01-23-2015 | 06:16 PM
  #29  
aidandj's Avatar
SADFab Destructive Testing Engineer
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 18,642
Total Cats: 1,866
From: Beaverton, USA
Default

Isn't there some sort of replacement nose for miatas that looks like that. PC or something?
Old 01-24-2015 | 12:22 AM
  #30  
doward's Avatar
Elite Member
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,569
Total Cats: 780
From: Columbus, OH
Default

Small pieces/flaps are surprisingly effective for this. I've cut this one down a few times and it still deflects most crud and bugs up over my helmet at autocross speeds. The car is getting caged right now so I'm sure it will get reevaluated this year.

I am looking forward to see how crazy yours gets!

Attached Thumbnails OGK-img_6317_zps5a3ace56.jpg  
Old 01-24-2015 | 12:46 AM
  #31  
Efini~FC3S's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 3,311
Total Cats: 98
From: Charlotte, NC
Default

Originally Posted by doward
blah blah bla
I spy with my little eye...




























LOTS OF TRANSMISSIONS!!!!!
Old 01-24-2015 | 12:49 AM
  #32  
Chooofoojoo's Avatar
Junior Member
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 458
Total Cats: 40
From: Denver, Co.
Default

Originally Posted by aidandj
Isn't there some sort of replacement nose for miatas that looks like that. PC or something?
Yes it's the Pit Crew front end.

Pit Crew Images

I can't wait to see the outcome of this car. Emilio is my hero for building such a sorted and powerful car for "general hoonage"
Old 11-03-2015 | 02:25 PM
  #33  
emilio700's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supporting Vendor
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 7,407
Total Cats: 2,432
Default

Moti did this a few months ago, before beginning work on the ND roll bars. Project has been dormant since late August. It's in the phase where Moti is doing all the tub mods and a lot of extra stuff for cooling, ducting, seat mounts, etc. We'll start working on it again when he's done and hope to have it running spring 2016.

Wing is a GT-1000 from APR. We'll make some larger custom end plates. Fenders cut away to make way for Autokonexion 30mm qtr panels that never materialized. Bummer since Mike used my car to make the molds and promised me a free set :(. So I'll have to find some other way to get fenders on it. Maybe Carbon Miata or DG Motorsports. It'll be set up to run 15x11 with 275 for autocross and a few tight tracks. 245's on 15x10's for everything else. Either 245 RC-1, 245/50 R80 Hoosier or 245/40 R7. We plan to attempt to street register the car and run a hand grooved set of 245 RC-1's.




Attached Thumbnails OGK-80-dscf1333w_94208c5858eb3dfc2c05b98740b5eaf75a4b0bd9.jpg   OGK-80-dscf1338w_c2066d4232dd06b64326d1b9bc8cdd5dcee4ad8c.jpg  
__________________


www.facebook.com/SuperMiata

949RACING.COM Home of the 6UL wheel

.31 SNR
Old 11-04-2015 | 02:22 PM
  #34  
aidandj's Avatar
SADFab Destructive Testing Engineer
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 18,642
Total Cats: 1,866
From: Beaverton, USA
Default

Originally Posted by emilio700
Maybe Carbon Miata
I like dis idea. They make good products at good prices.
Old 11-04-2015 | 02:26 PM
  #35  
emilio700's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supporting Vendor
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 7,407
Total Cats: 2,432
Default

Originally Posted by aidandj
I like dis idea. They make good products at good prices.
Got in touch with Marc yesterday. We're going to team up to do a set of rear quarters for the NB.
__________________


www.facebook.com/SuperMiata

949RACING.COM Home of the 6UL wheel

.31 SNR
Old 11-04-2015 | 02:29 PM
  #36  
aidandj's Avatar
SADFab Destructive Testing Engineer
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 18,642
Total Cats: 1,866
From: Beaverton, USA
Default

Originally Posted by emilio700
for the NB.
And now I haz the sad.

Oh well. Looking forward to this.
Old 11-04-2015 | 02:34 PM
  #37  
emilio700's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supporting Vendor
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 7,407
Total Cats: 2,432
Default

Originally Posted by aidandj
And now I haz the sad.

Oh well. Looking forward to this.
Carbonmiata.com
They already have them for the NA.
__________________


www.facebook.com/SuperMiata

949RACING.COM Home of the 6UL wheel

.31 SNR
Old 11-04-2015 | 02:40 PM
  #38  
OGRacing's Avatar
Supporting Vendor
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 1,797
Total Cats: 33
Default

Originally Posted by aidandj
And now I haz the sad.

Oh well. Looking forward to this.
i'm happy about it lol.
__________________
OG Racing
Your Source For Motorsports Safety Equipment
WWW.OGRACING.COM
800.934.9112
703.430.3303
info@ogracing.com
Originally Posted by Mobius
Hopefully so, but let's hope it's never necessary. Experiencing your safety gear in action is ... not optimal.
Old 11-04-2015 | 02:55 PM
  #39  
aidandj's Avatar
SADFab Destructive Testing Engineer
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 18,642
Total Cats: 1,866
From: Beaverton, USA
Default

Originally Posted by emilio700
Carbonmiata.com
They already have them for the NA.


Oops.
Old 01-21-2016 | 09:40 PM
  #40  
emilio700's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supporting Vendor
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 7,407
Total Cats: 2,432
Default

Rad in trunk? Sure. Easier to fit the other three (Rotrex, IC, OC) in the nose and still have room for many aeros. Also weight off the nose. Wing mounts for the APR GT-1000 visible here. CarbonMiata is doing carbon front and rear fenders for it.

Attached Thumbnails OGK-80-rearrad_d602eb8e3b0c82ab762aa031819584427a6ba3f7.jpg  
__________________


www.facebook.com/SuperMiata

949RACING.COM Home of the 6UL wheel

.31 SNR



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:20 AM.