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Old 12-12-2018 | 09:03 PM
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I missed the stock engine only for RM2. That alone will probably make me not join in. I will be sticking to the regular TA Street class.

I would consider running RMU except for I don't have a 6 point cage and have zero desire to run one for driving on the street. Running the Ace's would be nice though.
Yeah I l miss-read the stock engine only too. We taking any bets on how many rods thru blocks we'd see for turbo BPs on tracking doing 250-275rwhp?
Old 12-12-2018 | 09:21 PM
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Yeah I l miss-read the stock engine only too. We taking any bets on how many rods thru blocks we'd see for turbo BPs on tracking doing 250-275rwhp?
I got um 3 or 4 blocks sitting around. I guess I could prep them all to have spare. NB2 oil pump, 94 pistons, VVT heads. ALL the timing at the top with some e85 sounds fun.
Old 12-12-2018 | 10:38 PM
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I'm sure there will be some ironing out to do, but so far miata's haven't been terribly competitive in any class (besides darby in street mod - and she's likely going to track mod next year).

its also a first year thing... we wanted to keep a loose ruleset to invite lots of participation and see where any issues come up for the following year.

it'll be fun, and complaining will always happen - some with good reason. we'll figure out where the thin parts are and go from there. i think it'll be great for miatas in the midwest, and for gridlife. the sheer number of miatas we were able to get out for round 5 this year was amazing and awesome to see.
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Is an airdam considered a "major aero device"? I have effectively an S2 car with a wing(airdam, splitter, wing, 1.8, 225's, gutted) that seems like it slots into RM1 with some additional power added to make that 150whp.
I'm also still confused about how this class works with the rest of the GL format, is this it's own independent series, run at different times then the rest of TA cars, or do we run with the other TA cars and times also carry over and compete with Street/Track Mod/Unlimited ect?
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Originally Posted by Wingman703
Is an airdam considered a "major aero device"? I have effectively an S2 car with a wing(airdam, splitter, wing, 1.8, 225's, gutted) that seems like it slots into RM1 with some additional power added to make that 150whp.
I'm also still confused about how this class works with the rest of the GL format, is this it's own independent series, run at different times then the rest of TA cars, or do we run with the other TA cars and times also carry over and compete with Street/Track Mod/Unlimited ect?
Air-dam is not considered a "major aero device" for GL rule-set.
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To get the latest and greatest in Roadster Modified heres the FB group chat. A lot of questions can be discussed and talked about on this group page. The rules can be subject to change if enough people within the RM group agree on the same rulesets.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/574171819663382/
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I for one, am pumped. My car slots perfectly into the RM2 class with 250 rwhp, aero, stock block, stock trans.

Originally Posted by flier129
Yeah I l miss-read the stock engine only too. We taking any bets on how many rods thru blocks we'd see for turbo BPs on tracking doing 250-275rwhp?
​​​​​​​Rotrex ftw

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​​​​​​​Rotrex ftw
I had that same thought this morning. If you've got to limit the torque for mechanical sympathy, but you need HP for the big tracks (RA), then a Rotrex would be a good option.
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Originally Posted by Wingman703
I'm also still confused about how this class works with the rest of the GL format, is this it's own independent series, run at different times then the rest of TA cars, or do we run with the other TA cars and times also carry over and compete with Street/Track Mod/Unlimited ect?
this is a misunderstanding i've been seeing a lot of

you will still enter into one of the GL classes: street, street mod, track mod, or unlimited. you will then enter into the RM class that you fit into - points will be tabulated separately.

so you could kill it in one of the RM classes, and get destroyed in the GL class that you are entered (most miatas are long-shots for the GL classes SO FAR

you'll need to read both sets of rules and pick your battles in terms of car prep... i'm pretty stoked about it
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excited to see this. My car is pretty set up for RM1 as it sits
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Originally Posted by Padlock
excited to see this. My car is pretty set up for RM1 as it sits
Come down to Road Atlanta, we'll bump-draft down the back straight! #cheattowin (I'm joking on the bump-draft part)

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Not sure how I feel about needing an SCCA licence to compete in gridlife but ok. I guess we'll see what all that will require... besides the ~$70/year membership.
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Not sure how I feel about needing an SCCA licence to compete in gridlife but ok. I guess we'll see what all that will require... besides the ~$70/year membership.
I'm only assuming, but this could be due to the criticism of the caliber of some drivers who jumped into the Time Attack classes with little to no opening passing experience. I know at RA 2017 I questioned the quality of a few Mustang GT driver's who were holding me up and lacked situational awareness. RA 2018 was a demolition derby by some standards. I think a licensing program is something that GL needed.
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EDIT - NM found the answer in a FB thread.
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Originally Posted by Midtenn
I'm only assuming, but this could be due to the criticism of the caliber of some drivers who jumped into the Time Attack classes with little to no opening passing experience. I know at RA 2017 I questioned the quality of a few Mustang GT driver's who were holding me up and lacked situational awareness. RA 2018 was a demolition derby by some standards. I think a licensing program is something that GL needed.
Yeah with that in mind... RA this year was the biggest **** show... Although track officials said the amount of cars involved in incidents was by no means above the average. I guess statistically, the GL event was tame-average for the amount of cars they had running that weekend.
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Originally Posted by Roda
EDIT - NM found the answer in a FB thread.

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Question about "stock engine"... according to a thread on their FB page, "stock engine" = completely stock internally.
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Originally Posted by KevinK121
Yeah with that in mind... RA this year was the biggest **** show... Although track officials said the amount of cars involved in incidents was by no means above the average. I guess statistically, the GL event was tame-average for the amount of cars they had running that weekend.
Well RA is an unforgiving track. Its "old school" with limited run off in some fast areas.
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Question about "stock engine"... according to a thread on their FB page, "stock engine" = completely stock internally.
"stock block is defined as factory short block, pistons, rods and crankshaft"

So go nuts with headwork was my interpretation. A WHP cap is a WHP cap, doesn't matter how you get there as long as its not above.
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Originally Posted by Wingman703
"stock block is defined as factory short block, pistons, rods and crankshaft"

So go nuts with headwork was my interpretation. A WHP cap is a WHP cap, doesn't matter how you get there as long as its not above.
I interpret that as the block and head that the car left the factory with but anything goes beyond that. This is why a little bit more detail is needed in the rules I think. I was told in the Facebook group that no one is taking it seriously and anyone that does take it too seriously will be "shamed". I'm not sure how effective an enforcement strategy that is but I guess we'll see.
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