Miata Track Hubs: Custom design
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Let's talk Miata front hubs: For me, I clean and repack my old style OEM ones every ~30hours and every weekend in the rain on street tires. I know others do this more often to avoid a failure. I am working with Hoosier Performance Engineering (HPE) to come up with an acceptable bearing design (likely tapered roller) to get away from the failure when you laterally load the OEM ball bearing design. Options on the market today include "Blueprinted" hubs but they don't address the Achilles heal of the bearing design. HPE has a successful F-body hub on the market today and they are trying to gauge interest in a Miata hub that would be designed for an infinite life cycle under track conditions. Who would be interested and would you be willing to pay as much as $350 per hub for something like this? What is your application?
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For reference, Flyin Miata charges $212 + s/h for each of their blueprinted hubs with ARP studs https://www.flyinmiata.com/na-nb-blu...ront-hubs.html
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For reference, Flyin Miata charges $212 + s/h for each of their blueprinted hubs with ARP studs https://www.flyinmiata.com/na-nb-blu...ront-hubs.html
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We are one of those teams that repack the hubs between each race weekend (so every 14 hours or so). Talk with Jeremy, I know he's done a lot of research on bearings and different types, he maybe able to help you out some. If you need his contact, shoot me a message.
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Question: Who cares about retaining ABS? The bearing package they are trying to put in there means that we most likely will not be able to retain the tone ring for the sensor. You might be able to move the sensor or do some thing else but that's not in scope here.
Likely not a problem since the 01+ and Mazdaspeed are the only NA/NB with ABS worth anything anyhow.
Likely not a problem since the 01+ and Mazdaspeed are the only NA/NB with ABS worth anything anyhow.
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Question: Who cares about retaining ABS? The bearing package they are trying to put in there means that we most likely will not be able to retain the tone ring for the sensor. You might be able to move the sensor or do some thing else but that's not in scope here.
Likely not a problem since the Mazdaspeed is the only NA/NB with ABS worth anything anyhow.
Likely not a problem since the Mazdaspeed is the only NA/NB with ABS worth anything anyhow.
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I wasn't anticipating the love for ABS, it's not used on the track since the early ABS system wasn't the greatest plus it's not a common option on the early cars. What other markets besides Auto-X use ABS and wouldn't appreciate us removing the tone ring?
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ABS ring, yes. If not included on it, at least a way to press on the tone ring from a standard Miata hub on. The tone ring can be pressed off the OEM hubs. We do it all the time because we use a front ABS sensor to feed our AIM dash.
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That's the issue here, the small OEM housing is restricting what they can do in terms of offering an alternative bearing package. If it has to be ABS capable it makes things really tough, more to come