Fire Suppression
#23
Novec is basically the non-ozone depleting replacement for Halon.
My concerns with Novec are the same reason I avoided Halon historically - if you're in a closed cockpit/closed window series, by all means run it. However, I have no windows in my car, and the series that I run requires windows down at all times if you do. If you have to activate the fire system before you are at a dead stop (or even once you are), you are losing a lot of that gas volume and flareup prevention out the windows. Its possible that the Novec systems can move enough volume quickly enough to extinguish everything, but I don't want to be in a situation where I have to find out.
My concerns with Novec are the same reason I avoided Halon historically - if you're in a closed cockpit/closed window series, by all means run it. However, I have no windows in my car, and the series that I run requires windows down at all times if you do. If you have to activate the fire system before you are at a dead stop (or even once you are), you are losing a lot of that gas volume and flareup prevention out the windows. Its possible that the Novec systems can move enough volume quickly enough to extinguish everything, but I don't want to be in a situation where I have to find out.
#24
Novec is basically the non-ozone depleting replacement for Halon.
My concerns with Novec are the same reason I avoided Halon historically - if you're in a closed cockpit/closed window series, by all means run it. However, I have no windows in my car, and the series that I run requires windows down at all times if you do. If you have to activate the fire system before you are at a dead stop (or even once you are), you are losing a lot of that gas volume and flareup prevention out the windows. Its possible that the Novec systems can move enough volume quickly enough to extinguish everything, but I don't want to be in a situation where I have to find out.
My concerns with Novec are the same reason I avoided Halon historically - if you're in a closed cockpit/closed window series, by all means run it. However, I have no windows in my car, and the series that I run requires windows down at all times if you do. If you have to activate the fire system before you are at a dead stop (or even once you are), you are losing a lot of that gas volume and flareup prevention out the windows. Its possible that the Novec systems can move enough volume quickly enough to extinguish everything, but I don't want to be in a situation where I have to find out.
For an open window car, with me in it, I'll take messy foam that absorbs heat and doesn't displace O2.
One minor detail, make sure the floor in your car is grippy enough for you to use your feet to eject if its wet with foam. Bare metal floor (beside being hot) is damn slippery when wet.
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#26
* It is non-toxic and does not remove oxygen thus you can spray it inside the cockpit
* It works on both gasoline and E85
* It is non-corrosive and causes no damage on wiring and electronics
* There is no clean-up after use - it fully evaporates after use leaving no trace
Here is how it works:
If you want to get one
By Lifeline, it is their Zero 360 line of products:
LifelineUSA - Novec
By Spa Technique: Look at their Spa Extreme line:
https://www.spatechnique.com/store/i...t.cfm?catID=30
Or if you're baller you can even get a system which WRC use - FIA 8865-2015 certified, carbon fiber bottles and separate bottles for the engine and cockpit:
https://www.spatechnique.com/store/i...=1028&catID=30
Both Lifeline and SPA Technique offer Novec handhelds too - they go under the same line names (Zero 360 and Extreme)
P.S. If you try doing this with AFFF, you'll have to replace all electronics and wiring after that
* It works on both gasoline and E85
* It is non-corrosive and causes no damage on wiring and electronics
* There is no clean-up after use - it fully evaporates after use leaving no trace
Here is how it works:
If you want to get one
By Lifeline, it is their Zero 360 line of products:
LifelineUSA - Novec
By Spa Technique: Look at their Spa Extreme line:
https://www.spatechnique.com/store/i...t.cfm?catID=30
Or if you're baller you can even get a system which WRC use - FIA 8865-2015 certified, carbon fiber bottles and separate bottles for the engine and cockpit:
https://www.spatechnique.com/store/i...=1028&catID=30
Both Lifeline and SPA Technique offer Novec handhelds too - they go under the same line names (Zero 360 and Extreme)
P.S. If you try doing this with AFFF, you'll have to replace all electronics and wiring after that
#29
https://www.spatechnique.com/content...Aex_225-AE.pdf
#31
I just found that Safecraft makes a cheaper option for Novec, and they offer a 10lb version where SPA and Lifeline only do ~5lb. The giant 10lb might be overkill but would make me feel better about some of it going out the windows before the car is stopped. Available at Summit, pitstopusa, etc.
https://safecraft.com/product/model-lt/
https://pitstopusa.com/i-23955168-sa...ategory:135210
https://pitstopusa.com/i-5078323-saf...ategory:135210
https://safecraft.com/product/model-lt/
https://pitstopusa.com/i-23955168-sa...ategory:135210
https://pitstopusa.com/i-5078323-saf...ategory:135210
#32
FWIW, the cup car guys run Novec 1230 systems, but they run 15 pounders minimum - 5 for cockpit only, 10 for fuel cell area.
#33
Anyway. Novec 1230 does not displace oxygen and is safe in the cockpit.
But best, talk to the system manufacturers - they know how the thing should be installed and what do the different FIA standards related to these mean, why nowadays top tier racing series and FIA standards ask for separate bottles for driver and engine and so on.
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