True cost for a solid kit?
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I made the mistake of adding up all the receipts when I started driving my car after installing my kit. I won't say completed the install, because its never complete. I found the total to be just over $5K. That total includes me making a lot of the parts and overbuilding the kit to make it reliable on the track AND I still have to spend more to keep it that way. I'm currently racing it at 23PSI and will have to dyno it again to re-tune to make sure it's safe at that power level.
#67
And then you need to spend money on yourself in regards to drivers instruction & HPDE to learn how to properly handle your now scary fast car.
#68
From would I can piece together from researching what direction I want to take with my car, it's looking like real world cost to boost at 200whp is going to be around 5k to do it correctly and reliably. Anything shy of that would be a win, but would make me think I missed something and will have something blow up soonish.
#71
Yikes! This thread really went off topic from my original question.
I have been prepping for the turbo and picked up a newer engine from a 2002 miata, 6 speed to match and a 99 intake manifold. Original car was a 94.
Also, I didn't fully disclose how I will be using it. I am starting to build an Exocet so the turbo would be going in that car. It will be tracked, autocrossed and driven on the street every now and then.
I have been prepping for the turbo and picked up a newer engine from a 2002 miata, 6 speed to match and a 99 intake manifold. Original car was a 94.
Also, I didn't fully disclose how I will be using it. I am starting to build an Exocet so the turbo would be going in that car. It will be tracked, autocrossed and driven on the street every now and then.
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I do want to thank Emilio for the detailed response! I wasn't very specific on what complete meant but he nailed it. Track reliability for the power levels desired with the consideration of the wear and tear involved.
The purpose of pre-fab is that I would rather be driving than tinkering.
Corky, thanks for chiming in and creating a list for what 350whp takes
The purpose of pre-fab is that I would rather be driving than tinkering.
Corky, thanks for chiming in and creating a list for what 350whp takes
#73
FM is the only company IIRC that offers a 1. Complete 2. Comprehensive 3. True bolt-on Install. FM also has the best support, every time I've ordered without fail, I've gotten follow up calls asking if the part was what I needed, installed right, follow up questions. It feels like dealing with family that really cares.
This is also the first time I've seen someone try to defend a vendor by bashing EFR turbos. Weird place!
This is also the first time I've seen someone try to defend a vendor by bashing EFR turbos. Weird place!
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#74
The underpaying issue for me is to justify putting 5 to 7k into a car that is worth on a good day 4k. I have an 95. Every time I am about to pull the trigger come back to the same spot. Besides the turbo then you have the clutch, the brakes, and the snow ball starts. How do you guys justified in your head?
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The underpaying issue for me is to justify putting 5 to 7k into a car that is worth on a good day 4k. I have an 95. Every time I am about to pull the trigger come back to the same spot. Besides the turbo then you have the clutch, the brakes, and the snow ball starts. How do you guys justified in your head?
#76
The underpaying issue for me is to justify putting 5 to 7k into a car that is worth on a good day 4k. I have an 95. Every time I am about to pull the trigger come back to the same spot. Besides the turbo then you have the clutch, the brakes, and the snow ball starts. How do you guys justified in your head?
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The underpaying issue for me is to justify putting 5 to 7k into a car that is worth on a good day 4k. I have an 95. Every time I am about to pull the trigger come back to the same spot. Besides the turbo then you have the clutch, the brakes, and the snow ball starts. How do you guys justified in your head?
For me, I enjoy the modification part of this hobby just as much as the driving.
Other benefits include lower insurance for your cheap miata vs a more expensive sports car. If you were to total your car, all the money would be in mods. Just buy another $1000 shell, swap over all parts, and your up and running again.
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Just echoing what those above said. You can build a Miata that'll run away from nearly anything else on the track for less than $15k, and you can buy one for much, much less than that due to what you've posted above. It's an investment in fun, not an investment in a financial return.
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The underpaying issue for me is to justify putting 5 to 7k into a car that is worth on a good day 4k. I have an 95. Every time I am about to pull the trigger come back to the same spot. Besides the turbo then you have the clutch, the brakes, and the snow ball starts. How do you guys justified in your head?
If you are concerned about recouping your investment in aftermarket auto parts, this is not the hobby for you.