Originally Posted by gslender
(Post 879602)
So no 1.6 / NA6 option hey? Shame.... can't be convinced?
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Originally Posted by Savington
(Post 879766)
$6,000 on a turbo kit,
Originally Posted by Savington
(Post 879766)
we recommend spending the extra $800 on a healthy low-miles 1.8 liter motor.
Equally, if I was spending nearly $7000 on top of my existing NA6 then perhaps I should sell it and put all that money towards a later model turbo and upgrade it... Or even consider a whole range of alternate options. G |
Originally Posted by gslender
(Post 879602)
So no 1.6 / NA6 option hey? Shame.... can't be convinced?
the lack of a 1.6L kit makes it more legit. |
Originally Posted by gslender
(Post 879771)
Ouch! That's an expensive kit then!
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Once you "option out" an FM2 kit to include all of the things the TSE kit will have as standard, the cost difference will be negligible.
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Originally Posted by Savington
(Post 879976)
Once you "option out" an FM2 kit to include all of the things the TSE kit will have as standard, the cost difference will be negligible.
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If the kit is that top end, then a 2nd hand 1.8 isnt the right option either, a rebuilt 1.6 or 1.8 with stronger internals is.
Hey, if you're happy to disregard a global market of 1.6 customers (cause outside the USA the 1.6 was sold for longer periods) and content with the volume of sales you'll get in the local domestic market then all is good. Happy to move on. G |
Originally Posted by gslender
(Post 880054)
If the kit is that top end, then a 2nd hand 1.8 isnt the right option either, a rebuilt 1.6 or 1.8 with stronger internals is.
For sentimental value, sure, for cost, nah. I could understand it if you were after the smaller displacement for classing reasons. Or if you want to play with a "1.6 VVT"... |
is there a 1.6L vvt? 1.6L is weaksauce, no one who's anyone drives one.
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Recognizing the inherent sarcasm here, I just realized that rouhgly half of the Admin / Supermod crew are rocking 1.6 engines, which is statistically improbable given the known distribution of Miata engines.
What does this say about us as a group? |
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Gslender, 1.8s in perfectly good condition ARE 800 or less. Even in australia.
Dann |
Originally Posted by Joe Perez
(Post 880066)
Recognizing the inherent sarcasm here, I just realized that rouhgly half of the Admin / Supermod crew are rocking 1.6 engines, which is statistically improbable given the known distribution of Miata engines.
What does this say about us as a group? |
Pretty much
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I prefer to think of it as "we're not paid enough".
Y8s apparently really knows how to please Rick. |
Originally Posted by gslender
(Post 880054)
If the kit is that top end, then a 2nd hand 1.8 isnt the right option either, a rebuilt 1.6 or 1.8 with stronger internals is.
Hey, if you're happy to disregard a global market of 1.6 customers (cause outside the USA the 1.6 was sold for longer periods) and content with the volume of sales you'll get in the local domestic market then all is good. Happy to move on. G The 1.6 was sold but the 1.8 is the superior engine. Should I make a turbo for the v6 GM cars or the LSX cars. Simple choice unless you are forced by engine classing. And I loved my 92 1.6 miata. |
I love my 1.6l miata considering I've done every mod to make it on par with a base 94...now todo something with all that loss of torque and spool and inferior boner ppower.
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At the end of the day, the 1.6 is an inferior motor. It doesn't have the displacement or the port flow of the later 1.8s, and if you are talking about spending a bunch of money on a world-class turbo setup, we don't see a reason to put it on an inferior motor. In general, we don't work with 1.6 motors - the swap is not difficult at all and the benefits are significant.
Put a check for $60k in my hands and I will build 10 1.6 kits. Until then, let's keep this thread on topic. Thanks. |
Originally Posted by shuiend
(Post 880073)
You all are cheap?
Actually, saying "you are all cheap" is rather more polite than what I had in mind.
Originally Posted by Savington
(Post 880089)
At the end of the day, the 1.6 is an inferior motor. It doesn't have the displacement or the port flow of the later 1.8s, and if you are talking about spending a bunch of money on a world-class turbo setup, we don't see a reason to put it on an inferior motor.
To be honest, I'm a little bit surprised that the 1.6 still receives the attention that it does from folks like Bell and FM, given the age of these motors, the relatively small number of them which were produced in the first place, the even smaller number of them which are still on the road, and the fact that the cars in which they are fitted are probably most likely to be owned by the biggest cheapskates within the community (eg: those least likely to spend $5000 turbocharging a $1,000 car.) |
no replacement for displacement. /discussion
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