Fixing MKTurbo Car
#1
Fixing MKTurbo Car
Hey all,
Picked up a pristine NA8 with 55k miles on it last month that was sold due to "poor running, inability to idle, poor driveability" with the MKTurbo kit. Seller was frustrated with it, and just wanted it gone. Figured I'd start a thread here outlining what I've done to it, and let you guys pick it apart and give me some tips as well. This is my first "non-factory" turbo car, but I've got about 4 miatas worth of maintenance experience.
The Build: MKTurbo Complete Package with MS3Pro
What I've done so far:
1) The Idle VE values were about 1/2 what they should have been. Car would not idle, assuming this means the previous tuner just tried to autotune it above a certain RPM and gave up on idle? After fixing the VE values (I read a TON on how to tune idle), and setting up the other startup values, it starts up after a few cranks even when cold, and idles just fine. I've had it die once or twice off of a hard accel back down to idle, but I'll keep working at it.
2) MAP sensor was tee'd off of the BOV ref port, and the Boost Gauge. Took the tee off for the BOV ref, left the tee on for the interior boost gauge. Seems to have a more stable reading now.
3) Currently replacing the abused K&N filter (not pictured). It had collapsed from what I assume to be clogging.
4) Car got to about 245deg F when I was driving it a few weeks ago testing the tuning, hard pulls with the AC on in stop and go traffic, 100 degrees outside. Drained the coolant (it was dark green), refilled with about 80/20 distilled mix and antifreeze using vac fill tool. Has not gotten over 220 after that. The car has an LRB undertray installed. I have the side panels as well, but they still need to be trimmed for the intercooler piping.
5) Still working on the catch can setup. Reading a TON of conflicting threads on this. Can someone point me to a good one for a boosted car? I'm hearing much about "porting" the valve cover.
6) The O-ring sealing the piston on the knockoff BOV was knocked down onto the shaft. This was creating a significant boost leak, and I'm assuming was why the PO was complaining about "late boost". Car builds from 2500 to 4k rpm up to 11psi easily now.
7) The wastegate actuator is hitting the hood bracing. I can't seem to see an easy way to fix this, anyone have experience on this particular clocking of the turbo with this kit? Keeping AC (Texas) and PS.
Picked up a pristine NA8 with 55k miles on it last month that was sold due to "poor running, inability to idle, poor driveability" with the MKTurbo kit. Seller was frustrated with it, and just wanted it gone. Figured I'd start a thread here outlining what I've done to it, and let you guys pick it apart and give me some tips as well. This is my first "non-factory" turbo car, but I've got about 4 miatas worth of maintenance experience.
The Build: MKTurbo Complete Package with MS3Pro
What I've done so far:
1) The Idle VE values were about 1/2 what they should have been. Car would not idle, assuming this means the previous tuner just tried to autotune it above a certain RPM and gave up on idle? After fixing the VE values (I read a TON on how to tune idle), and setting up the other startup values, it starts up after a few cranks even when cold, and idles just fine. I've had it die once or twice off of a hard accel back down to idle, but I'll keep working at it.
2) MAP sensor was tee'd off of the BOV ref port, and the Boost Gauge. Took the tee off for the BOV ref, left the tee on for the interior boost gauge. Seems to have a more stable reading now.
3) Currently replacing the abused K&N filter (not pictured). It had collapsed from what I assume to be clogging.
4) Car got to about 245deg F when I was driving it a few weeks ago testing the tuning, hard pulls with the AC on in stop and go traffic, 100 degrees outside. Drained the coolant (it was dark green), refilled with about 80/20 distilled mix and antifreeze using vac fill tool. Has not gotten over 220 after that. The car has an LRB undertray installed. I have the side panels as well, but they still need to be trimmed for the intercooler piping.
5) Still working on the catch can setup. Reading a TON of conflicting threads on this. Can someone point me to a good one for a boosted car? I'm hearing much about "porting" the valve cover.
6) The O-ring sealing the piston on the knockoff BOV was knocked down onto the shaft. This was creating a significant boost leak, and I'm assuming was why the PO was complaining about "late boost". Car builds from 2500 to 4k rpm up to 11psi easily now.
7) The wastegate actuator is hitting the hood bracing. I can't seem to see an easy way to fix this, anyone have experience on this particular clocking of the turbo with this kit? Keeping AC (Texas) and PS.
#2
my wastegate was also rubbing on hood. I bought one of these
https://www.ebay.com/itm/382997451079
Gives a bit of clearance.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/382997451079
Gives a bit of clearance.
#3
Your catch can is correct for a VTA setup. I'd personally like to plumb it back into the intake for a street car, it puts vacuum on the crank case which has numerous benefits, and burns the vapors rather than putting them into the engine bay. If you use a quality catch can and your engine is healthy, you shouldn't fill them up.
As for boost, my fav fix is an external gate welded to the turbine housing. If you have anyone local who's a good welder, it's fairly simply. It also needs to be clocked fairly low to avoid the hood however. But even once you fix your current wastegate interference, you still might find you have poor boost control.
As for boost, my fav fix is an external gate welded to the turbine housing. If you have anyone local who's a good welder, it's fairly simply. It also needs to be clocked fairly low to avoid the hood however. But even once you fix your current wastegate interference, you still might find you have poor boost control.
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My experience with the Kingugawa actuators. Other parts from them seem good.
Similarly... the fancy piston type blow-off valves, like Forge, require cleaning and re-lubing to function well. The basic diaphragm parts for VW / Porsche / Audi are less expensive, work very well, and last with no maintenance. Like this one. Off topic, but related.
OP: Small hammer blow to the brace?
DNM
Similarly... the fancy piston type blow-off valves, like Forge, require cleaning and re-lubing to function well. The basic diaphragm parts for VW / Porsche / Audi are less expensive, work very well, and last with no maintenance. Like this one. Off topic, but related.
OP: Small hammer blow to the brace?
DNM
#5
Your catch can is correct for a VTA setup. I'd personally like to plumb it back into the intake for a street car, it puts vacuum on the crank case which has numerous benefits, and burns the vapors rather than putting them into the engine bay. If you use a quality catch can and your engine is healthy, you shouldn't fill them up.
As for boost, my fav fix is an external gate welded to the turbine housing. If you have anyone local who's a good welder, it's fairly simply. It also needs to be clocked fairly low to avoid the hood however. But even once you fix your current wastegate interference, you still might find you have poor boost control.
#6
My experience with the Kingugawa actuators. Other parts from them seem good.
Similarly... the fancy piston type blow-off valves, like Forge, require cleaning and re-lubing to function well. The basic diaphragm parts for VW / Porsche / Audi are less expensive, work very well, and last with no maintenance. Like this one. Off topic, but related.
OP: Small hammer blow to the brace?
DNM
Similarly... the fancy piston type blow-off valves, like Forge, require cleaning and re-lubing to function well. The basic diaphragm parts for VW / Porsche / Audi are less expensive, work very well, and last with no maintenance. Like this one. Off topic, but related.
OP: Small hammer blow to the brace?
DNM
I'm afraid to hammer that brace, that it might put a dent on the exterior of the hood. The brace is already pretty dinged up inside from impacts, but trying to keep the hood modification to a minimum. How hard are those braces to deform?
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Originally Posted by Fireindc;[url=tel:1629171
1629171[/url]]FWIW I've had a kingugawa actuator on my gt2860RS for ~15k miles, countless track days, dyno days, etc. and have had no issues. Though mine isn't mounted at an angle like DNM and slasers are. Maybe that's part of it.
DNM
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