BeGI-S installation
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BeGI-S installation *updated*
I am starting this thread to document my install on my BeGI-S system for the mt.n noobs (like me). As I get farther along I will add more progress updates and pictures.
Some up-front notes
1. Install now complete. Well, sort of... Is it ever REALLY complete? IC? WI? Clutch?
2. Still in Pre Fab and proud of it.
3. I am not trying to document every aspect of this installation, just what I think is useful to everyone. There are some other good threads that cover additional details I have not shown here.
4. No whining about the image size. The pictures were a lot bigger before I resized them for upload. If you do not like it, get broadband
5. I mention a few snags I had with the kit in this thread. This does not mean it sucks, quite the contrary. Overall it has been a great kit. What problems I did have were promptly taken care of by Stephanie at BEGi.
For this go to well you just have to read the instructions, look at the parts, think about what you are doing, read again, etc. It is not an insert tab A into slot B kind of thing, nor do I think it should be. This is not an oil change, so you need to have some aptitude for engines and wrenching. Above all, take your time and do it correctly the first time.
OK so let's get started...
Some up-front notes
1. Install now complete. Well, sort of... Is it ever REALLY complete? IC? WI? Clutch?
2. Still in Pre Fab and proud of it.
3. I am not trying to document every aspect of this installation, just what I think is useful to everyone. There are some other good threads that cover additional details I have not shown here.
4. No whining about the image size. The pictures were a lot bigger before I resized them for upload. If you do not like it, get broadband
5. I mention a few snags I had with the kit in this thread. This does not mean it sucks, quite the contrary. Overall it has been a great kit. What problems I did have were promptly taken care of by Stephanie at BEGi.
For this go to well you just have to read the instructions, look at the parts, think about what you are doing, read again, etc. It is not an insert tab A into slot B kind of thing, nor do I think it should be. This is not an oil change, so you need to have some aptitude for engines and wrenching. Above all, take your time and do it correctly the first time.
OK so let's get started...
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This installation of course starts with disassembly. Here is the stock manifold with the heat shield removed. The wetness look is from the spray oil/penetrant I used to soak all of the bolts for a day or two before I started. I used Sea Foam, some stuff they sell at NAPA which I bought because... well I was there buying some other parts and that is what they had. It works just fine, and has a nice foaming action that last for a few seconds and helps the lubricant stay in the target area a bit longer.
The only bolt/fitting that did not come loose easily was the %^&*(# EGR tube connection. I soaked it thoroughly in penetrant for a couple of days, made no difference. So, I ended up removing the manifold with the EGR still connected after disconnecting it from the intake mani. It took some maneuvering but I got it out. Once I had it removed I clamped the fitting in my bench vise and broke it loose by rotating the manifold around.
In my opinion, the infamous stock exhaust manifold looks like something that comes out of my butt a few hours after I have eaten a large porterhouse steak. It is also pretty heavy.
The only bolt/fitting that did not come loose easily was the %^&*(# EGR tube connection. I soaked it thoroughly in penetrant for a couple of days, made no difference. So, I ended up removing the manifold with the EGR still connected after disconnecting it from the intake mani. It took some maneuvering but I got it out. Once I had it removed I clamped the fitting in my bench vise and broke it loose by rotating the manifold around.
In my opinion, the infamous stock exhaust manifold looks like something that comes out of my butt a few hours after I have eaten a large porterhouse steak. It is also pretty heavy.
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Since I already mentioned it let's cover the coolant reroute real quick. This is the standard reroute from BeGI, not the 'racing' reroute kit. So the way it works is simple. You get rid of the pipe that runs under the exhaust from the heater core. BeGI provides a coolant inlet manifold with the pipe hole welded shut. The new coolant line runs behind the engine, then tees into the upper radiator hose (return hose) using a BeGI supplied tee. They also supply a splice that connects to the stock heater hose for two reasons I can see. One, the lines are slightly different sizes so it acts as an adapter. Two, the pre-bent heater hose makes for much cleaner routing into the bypass loop. For now, since the parts store did not stock the heater core hose, I trimmed off the ends and reused the existing one.
Stephanie at BeGI indicated I would have to loosen up the a/c compressor to swap out the coolant manifold. I was able to do it by only removing the PS pump. It was a bit tricky to get to the lower bolt, but easier than messing with the a/c compressor.
The pictures show the modified versus stock coolant manifold, and the reroute starting at the heater core, running to the aforementioned radiator hose tee. The heat wrap for the heater core hoses is already in place. The brass fitting in the last image is a tee I made and added for the sending unit of a coolant temp gauge I am installing. There is more space here than over by the heater core, and the temp will be close enough.
Stephanie at BeGI indicated I would have to loosen up the a/c compressor to swap out the coolant manifold. I was able to do it by only removing the PS pump. It was a bit tricky to get to the lower bolt, but easier than messing with the a/c compressor.
The pictures show the modified versus stock coolant manifold, and the reroute starting at the heater core, running to the aforementioned radiator hose tee. The heat wrap for the heater core hoses is already in place. The brass fitting in the last image is a tee I made and added for the sending unit of a coolant temp gauge I am installing. There is more space here than over by the heater core, and the temp will be close enough.
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Here is the turbo installed on the car. It took a few hours working carefully to install the mani, turbo, and DP, including preparing the turbo (installing fittings and studs). It is tricky to get it all in, as it all has to fit together just so, and a couple of the nuts are a bitch to get to and/or have to be tightened down while the flange is being moved into place. The turbo for example has to be loose on its studs in order to get the DP in place. Not a problem with the kit, just space limitations in the engine bay.
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Yes it fits on a manifold stud. You can see a bracket/eyelet on the tube right next to the manifold stud it fits onto. It is the third stud from the right.
The BeGI down pipe fits really well, and I am really pleased with the location of the O2 bungs. There are actually three of them welded in already. The first one is well placed for the stock O2 sensor which screwed right in no problems with placement or wires. The second one I am not using so I just plugged it. The third one is pretty much perfect for a full-time WBO2 sensor; I am installing a LC-1, and it fits in no problem, placed at just about 12 o'clock, with plenty of space overhead, and close to the shifter boot, which I am going to try to use for the LC-1 wiring feedthrough into the cab.
Note that the stock exhaust bracket is still in place. I tried REALLY damn hard to remove the bolts to remove the bracket (no longer needed) but they would not budge. I used penetrant, a 5 foot cheater bar, and an impact hammer. They did not budge. But since the DP clears the bracket I am going to leave it there for now. I'll take it out when I change the clutch.
The DP routing is fantastic, no clearance problems at all. I shook it around after installing it and it does not hit anything. It also bolts right up to the stock cat flange. I'm keeping the stock exhaust for now but plan to put in a full system later.
The pictures start at the turbo and move towards the cat.
The BeGI down pipe fits really well, and I am really pleased with the location of the O2 bungs. There are actually three of them welded in already. The first one is well placed for the stock O2 sensor which screwed right in no problems with placement or wires. The second one I am not using so I just plugged it. The third one is pretty much perfect for a full-time WBO2 sensor; I am installing a LC-1, and it fits in no problem, placed at just about 12 o'clock, with plenty of space overhead, and close to the shifter boot, which I am going to try to use for the LC-1 wiring feedthrough into the cab.
Note that the stock exhaust bracket is still in place. I tried REALLY damn hard to remove the bolts to remove the bracket (no longer needed) but they would not budge. I used penetrant, a 5 foot cheater bar, and an impact hammer. They did not budge. But since the DP clears the bracket I am going to leave it there for now. I'll take it out when I change the clutch.
The DP routing is fantastic, no clearance problems at all. I shook it around after installing it and it does not hit anything. It also bolts right up to the stock cat flange. I'm keeping the stock exhaust for now but plan to put in a full system later.
The pictures start at the turbo and move towards the cat.
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OK one last post for tonight then I am going to bed cause I am freaking tired.
This covers the routing of the oil line from the tee at the oil pressure sending unit to the distribution bracket by the turbo. Again this is the upgraded BeGI SS setup. The line length was just right for the routing. Too short, or too long, would be a problem. It is a good idea to keep the ss lines from rubbing on anything softer than they are since they will apparently saw through it eventually. There are a couple of areas where this was unavoidable, so I tightly zip-tied the line to whatever it was so that they would not move back and forth against each other.
This covers the routing of the oil line from the tee at the oil pressure sending unit to the distribution bracket by the turbo. Again this is the upgraded BeGI SS setup. The line length was just right for the routing. Too short, or too long, would be a problem. It is a good idea to keep the ss lines from rubbing on anything softer than they are since they will apparently saw through it eventually. There are a couple of areas where this was unavoidable, so I tightly zip-tied the line to whatever it was so that they would not move back and forth against each other.
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Not to hi-jack. Would it be possible to run the oil feed line around the back to keep it away from pulleys and things of that nature then along the VC as seen here?
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If you went straight to the turbo and skipped the distribution bracket it might make it, otherwise I do not think it is long enough. Really though the routing is not as bad as it might look from the pictures. The only really tight spot was getting past the intake mani brace. After that it was pretty easy to route. I am not even sure I routed it in the manner BeGI intended but it should work. I am going to keep an eye on it at any rate.
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OK I cannot get to sleep yet so I'll post up some more stuff.
Next I'll show the coolant routing for the turbo, not to be confused with the previously discussed engine coolant reroute. It is pretty simple really. Normally there is a small diameter line that runs from the thermostat housing (front of engine) to the coolant inlet manifold. The kit reroutes this connection, through the turbo coolant circuit. So basically the routing is now thermostat->distribution block->turbo inlet->turbo outlet-> distribution block->coolant intake manifold.
The picture below shows the coolant lines connected to the aforementioned locations on the engine, all the way to the distribution bracket. The attachment point for the coolant manifold is hard to see here. But if you scroll up and look at the manifold pictures you can see the small pipe where the line attaches.
Look for the blue hose clamps to see the ends of the coolant hoses. The upper left is the thermostat, the lower left is the coolant inlet manifold.
The object dangling in the middle of the image is just a stock item that will not stay there. Let's see if the bunch can identify what it is.
Next I'll show the coolant routing for the turbo, not to be confused with the previously discussed engine coolant reroute. It is pretty simple really. Normally there is a small diameter line that runs from the thermostat housing (front of engine) to the coolant inlet manifold. The kit reroutes this connection, through the turbo coolant circuit. So basically the routing is now thermostat->distribution block->turbo inlet->turbo outlet-> distribution block->coolant intake manifold.
The picture below shows the coolant lines connected to the aforementioned locations on the engine, all the way to the distribution bracket. The attachment point for the coolant manifold is hard to see here. But if you scroll up and look at the manifold pictures you can see the small pipe where the line attaches.
Look for the blue hose clamps to see the ends of the coolant hoses. The upper left is the thermostat, the lower left is the coolant inlet manifold.
The object dangling in the middle of the image is just a stock item that will not stay there. Let's see if the bunch can identify what it is.
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Here is how I am handling the air intake. The black flexible duct runs up and to the right through the firewall and into an air filter. This is a DIY cowl induction setup I put together, more info here.
https://www.miataturbo.net/forum/showthread.php?t=16531
The black duct connects to a 3"-2.5" reducer (Spectre), which is connected to a 2.5"-2.25" exhaust tubing reducer which is barely visible. This is connected to a 90 deg. rubber elbow with 2.25" connections on both ends. The elbow is connected to the compressor inlet which is 2.25".
You can see the distribution bracket in the bottom center of the image. The intake clears it with no problem though I did have to change a bit the way the oil feed line was routed to the turbo.
https://www.miataturbo.net/forum/showthread.php?t=16531
The black duct connects to a 3"-2.5" reducer (Spectre), which is connected to a 2.5"-2.25" exhaust tubing reducer which is barely visible. This is connected to a 90 deg. rubber elbow with 2.25" connections on both ends. The elbow is connected to the compressor inlet which is 2.25".
You can see the distribution bracket in the bottom center of the image. The intake clears it with no problem though I did have to change a bit the way the oil feed line was routed to the turbo.
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Thanks. Yeah I think the stainless lines do look cool, better yet they should be more durable.
That is about it for the pictures for now. More coming as the build progresses. I should have it completed by the end of this weekend. Who am I kidding, it never really is 'complete' is it?
If there is anything in particular you want to see let me know.
That is about it for the pictures for now. More coming as the build progresses. I should have it completed by the end of this weekend. Who am I kidding, it never really is 'complete' is it?
If there is anything in particular you want to see let me know.