WestfieldMX5 Guide GONE!
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I want to apologize if this has been discussed previously (I didn't see anything), but after a recent visit to Frank's site, I was completely heartbroken to see that all that golden information was GONE!
I have no idea what the circumstances were that swayed Frank to remove his info, but I personally just wanted to give my sincere thanks to him for sharing his wealth of information to the last few of us who still build their own Megasquirts.
I truly hate to see this information removed, with the how to guides on this site being so out dated, it is a real shame to see the one good site gone.
This would have gone through a PM but I see Frank has that disabled.
Is there anything I(we) can do to get this travesty resolved?
I have no idea what the circumstances were that swayed Frank to remove his info, but I personally just wanted to give my sincere thanks to him for sharing his wealth of information to the last few of us who still build their own Megasquirts.
I truly hate to see this information removed, with the how to guides on this site being so out dated, it is a real shame to see the one good site gone.
This would have gone through a PM but I see Frank has that disabled.
Is there anything I(we) can do to get this travesty resolved?
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Already a thread, and parts of a few threads, about it.
There was a butthurt match between him and another member on some other forum.
Result is we all suffer.
But in the end it's his site, and he can do what he wants with it.
I probably wouldn't have made it this far this quick with my MS3x build if it wasn't for him so I owe him a lot.
I doubt it will get resolved as he states it's down forever.
I'll be making a MS3x specific site eventually using 100% my material (note: nothing derived specifically from frank's site).
But yea, sucks overall since brain as far as I know hasn't updated his site.
There was a butthurt match between him and another member on some other forum.
Result is we all suffer.
But in the end it's his site, and he can do what he wants with it.
I probably wouldn't have made it this far this quick with my MS3x build if it wasn't for him so I owe him a lot.
I doubt it will get resolved as he states it's down forever.
I'll be making a MS3x specific site eventually using 100% my material (note: nothing derived specifically from frank's site).
But yea, sucks overall since brain as far as I know hasn't updated his site.
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I don't know the web address to "Frank's site" or I'd have looked it up for you:
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Nope, according to the wayback machine:
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I had all the cached docs, but lost them when I forgot to transfer them to my external drive when I did my bi-montly OS reinstall. I took enough pictures and notes that I can create some updated MS3x stuff, although it's all for a 93 w/ 1.6.
Someone posted somewhere they got all the google cached docs, forgot what thread though.
Someone posted somewhere they got all the google cached docs, forgot what thread though.
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I pulled all the pages down off Google cache. A bunch of images are missing. This is a link to a zip of all the stuff I pulled down.
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B-dI...it?usp=sharing
Not sure why this matters since he compiled information from other places to build his site.
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B-dI...it?usp=sharing
Already a thread, and parts of a few threads, about it.
There was a butthurt match between him and another member on some other forum.
Result is we all suffer.
But in the end it's his site, and he can do what he wants with it.
I probably wouldn't have made it this far this quick with my MS3x build if it wasn't for him so I owe him a lot.
I doubt it will get resolved as he states it's down forever.
I'll be making a MS3x specific site eventually using 100% my material (note: nothing derived specifically from frank's site).
But yea, sucks overall since brain as far as I know hasn't updated his site.
There was a butthurt match between him and another member on some other forum.
Result is we all suffer.
But in the end it's his site, and he can do what he wants with it.
I probably wouldn't have made it this far this quick with my MS3x build if it wasn't for him so I owe him a lot.
I doubt it will get resolved as he states it's down forever.
I'll be making a MS3x specific site eventually using 100% my material (note: nothing derived specifically from frank's site).
But yea, sucks overall since brain as far as I know hasn't updated his site.
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Which is why it's a pretty selfish and petty thing to do to just remove it entirely without giving someone else the chance to host it or work out some sort of transition. He works with the community to provide a resource, but then when one person complains about his content being used without permission, instead of resolving that issue he just removes everything, not only wasting his own time, but that of others who helped.
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Is this an opportunity for something new and better?
Wiki anyone? Eliminate the "intellectual property" BS by making it open source from the start. There's a huge number of write ups on this site that would make good articles with little or no editing. But, what was really useful about Frank's site (I think) was the tutorialish step by step instructions. Scott has already put together a lot of that....
I'd be happy to pay whatever monthly/yearly fees are required to buy a domain name and keep it hosted forever. (No ads, free for everyone forever.) But I am not in a position to accept heavy responsibilities for content. That needs to be shared as much as possible.
Wiki anyone? Eliminate the "intellectual property" BS by making it open source from the start. There's a huge number of write ups on this site that would make good articles with little or no editing. But, what was really useful about Frank's site (I think) was the tutorialish step by step instructions. Scott has already put together a lot of that....
I'd be happy to pay whatever monthly/yearly fees are required to buy a domain name and keep it hosted forever. (No ads, free for everyone forever.) But I am not in a position to accept heavy responsibilities for content. That needs to be shared as much as possible.
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Didn't somebody kinda do the open/wikie thing already here?
Welcome to the Miata Turbo FAQ - Miata Turbo FAQ
Welcome to the Miata Turbo FAQ - Miata Turbo FAQ
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Didn't somebody kinda do the open/wikie thing already here?
Welcome to the Miata Turbo FAQ - Miata Turbo FAQ
Welcome to the Miata Turbo FAQ - Miata Turbo FAQ
Brain, you have a lot of good material that disappeared when you lost squatter's rights. Here's a new home. Plus anything that you collaborated with Frank on is probably fair to put up.
What do we need to reproduce the functionality of Franks site? Let's make a list; we'll bring the stuff together and put it somewhere that's guaranteed not to disappear (or get sold for the price of a set of tires from Wal*Mart.)