Second optoisolator on MS2
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Second optoisolator on MS2
Even after upgrading to MS2 I am still getting a loss of sync or random dropouts, not as often as with MS1 but still enough to annoy me. While looking around I have found what seems to be the end all solution to the problem, which is making a second optoisolator circuit. I have found a diagram posted by Brain floating which I posted along with a picture of it on a board. Please verify that it in fact looks correct.
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The above is not mine, just one I found and scribbled out what I believe does not pertain to the circuit and changed pin 2 from spr1 to IAC1A. I don't have a current log with it happening as my old tuning laptop's motherboard fried. I can probably get one next time I have the car out but the way the weather has been lately that may be a week or two.
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I don't have any pictures of the actual circuit built, apart from this one, which is worthless for your purposes:
(It's the circuit that the red/wht and blk/wht wires go into.)
In all seriousness, would you guys actually buy a little board containing this dual-input conditioning circuit?
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I tried really hard several years ago when I was doing the initial install on my '92. Wound up saying "**** it" and building a 36-1 crankwheel setup. (This was, admittedly, a rather disproportionate response to the situation.)
The 40106 solution has excellent filtering and hysteresis, and doesn't rely upon current-mode devices which offend my sensibilities.
The 40106 solution has excellent filtering and hysteresis, and doesn't rely upon current-mode devices which offend my sensibilities.
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Even after upgrading to MS2 I am still getting a loss of sync or random dropouts, not as often as with MS1 but still enough to annoy me. While looking around I have found what seems to be the end all solution to the problem, which is making a second optoisolator circuit. I have found a diagram posted by Brain floating which I posted along with a picture of it on a board. Please verify that it in fact looks correct.
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That's correct. Depending on how you have your cam input wired now, you may need to flip the polarity setting (in software) for that input after you build this circuit. I can't remember what it's called on the MS2. Also, you'll need to re-calibrate the hardware latency. This circuit has a very long time-constant by design.
The value and stability of C120 and C125 are highly critical. Use low-tolerance parts here (eg: 5%, C0G).
The value and stability of C120 and C125 are highly critical. Use low-tolerance parts here (eg: 5%, C0G).
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Under the diagnostics tab.
You're chasing your tail if you haven't taken a composite log first. It will show you (if) you have a sync problem, and if so, which sensor is not coming through.
I am generally amazed at when I see a report of a sync problem on a Miata. I personally have numerous Miata installs under my belt, as in I can't count/remember them all, and have never had a sync problem. As a company, Miata is one of our top selling applications, and I don't recall any sync problems with any of our prebuilt units if correctly installed.
You're chasing your tail if you haven't taken a composite log first. It will show you (if) you have a sync problem, and if so, which sensor is not coming through.
I am generally amazed at when I see a report of a sync problem on a Miata. I personally have numerous Miata installs under my belt, as in I can't count/remember them all, and have never had a sync problem. As a company, Miata is one of our top selling applications, and I don't recall any sync problems with any of our prebuilt units if correctly installed.