Running lean at partial throttle and WOT around 4k RPM
#1
Running lean at partial throttle and WOT around 4k RPM
I recently built and installed a DIYPNP into my 92 Miata in preparation for the turbo install. I am using an AEM wideband and GM IAT. I am running lean at very light throttle, if I give it a little less or a little more throttle it is no longer lean, but will run 16+ AFRs while cruising. It also goes lean at WOT around 4k RPM. At idle the AFRs are around 14.7. I have tried adjusting the VE table around 4k rpm and its a little less lean but still approaching 14 AFR at WOT. Here is a screen shot from the log viewer. Any ideas what is causing this?
Last edited by codices; 08-22-2012 at 01:46 AM.
#5
yea 17.6 seems odd
stock 1.6 injectors? should be ariound 12 or 13 iirc, I would make sure fuel pressure at the rail is to spec.
9-7% of the fuel is being taken out by gair
I would look at reducing the effect of gair on the tune, disabling closed loop operation, disabling any acceleration enrichments, get a variable TPS, while dialing in the tune.
Also in project properties switch it from narrowband to wideband
Also if stock 1.6 injectors 1.2ms is too much dead time for them I would start at around .8 and go lower, the closer you get the flatter the VE table will become
stock 1.6 injectors? should be ariound 12 or 13 iirc, I would make sure fuel pressure at the rail is to spec.
9-7% of the fuel is being taken out by gair
I would look at reducing the effect of gair on the tune, disabling closed loop operation, disabling any acceleration enrichments, get a variable TPS, while dialing in the tune.
Also in project properties switch it from narrowband to wideband
Also if stock 1.6 injectors 1.2ms is too much dead time for them I would start at around .8 and go lower, the closer you get the flatter the VE table will become
#8
yea 17.6 seems odd
stock 1.6 injectors? should be ariound 12 or 13 iirc, I would make sure fuel pressure at the rail is to spec.
9-7% of the fuel is being taken out by gair
I would look at reducing the effect of gair on the tune, disabling closed loop operation, disabling any acceleration enrichments, get a variable TPS, while dialing in the tune.
Also in project properties switch it from narrowband to wideband
Also if stock 1.6 injectors 1.2ms is too much dead time for them I would start at around .8 and go lower, the closer you get the flatter the VE table will become
stock 1.6 injectors? should be ariound 12 or 13 iirc, I would make sure fuel pressure at the rail is to spec.
9-7% of the fuel is being taken out by gair
I would look at reducing the effect of gair on the tune, disabling closed loop operation, disabling any acceleration enrichments, get a variable TPS, while dialing in the tune.
Also in project properties switch it from narrowband to wideband
Also if stock 1.6 injectors 1.2ms is too much dead time for them I would start at around .8 and go lower, the closer you get the flatter the VE table will become
Could you elaborate on disabling closed loop, disabling acceleration enrichment?
#9
MSPNP default uses:
Required Fuel = 13.4
Opening Time = 1ms
Why on earth are you adjusting your VE table yourself? Use VE Analyze.
Set your required fuel based upon the calculation. Tune with VE, not with required fuel. What you said about adjusting required fuel to get it to idle is pure gibberish. You may have caused a side effect, but you're doing it wrong. I've posted extensively on tuning idle. Others have too. Try a search.
Also, check your fuel pressure and make sure it is up to snuff. You've bought bigger injectors for your FM kit, right? The stock 1.6 injectors don't have enough.
Required Fuel = 13.4
Opening Time = 1ms
Why on earth are you adjusting your VE table yourself? Use VE Analyze.
Set your required fuel based upon the calculation. Tune with VE, not with required fuel. What you said about adjusting required fuel to get it to idle is pure gibberish. You may have caused a side effect, but you're doing it wrong. I've posted extensively on tuning idle. Others have too. Try a search.
Also, check your fuel pressure and make sure it is up to snuff. You've bought bigger injectors for your FM kit, right? The stock 1.6 injectors don't have enough.
#10
I am running stock injectors for the time being. I actually have it running pretty well by adjusting the req fuel, injector dead time and adjusting the VE table for cruising and for WOT at 4k RPM. Honestly, I don't want to mess with it any more until I get the turbo installed.
I am adjusting the VE table manually because I do not have the full version of the software.
I plan on running the stock injectors at wastegate pressure. FM sells the voodoo kit for use with the stock injectors and says that they are good for about 160whp. This winter comes clutch, differential, injectors and exhaust for big boost.
I am adjusting the VE table manually because I do not have the full version of the software.
I plan on running the stock injectors at wastegate pressure. FM sells the voodoo kit for use with the stock injectors and says that they are good for about 160whp. This winter comes clutch, differential, injectors and exhaust for big boost.
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