MSIIDIY 1.6 Initial Start up sounds like a WRX - Misfire?
#1
MSIIDIY 1.6 Initial Start up sounds like a WRX - Misfire?
Hi Guys,
I am literally in the home stretch on getting my Miata back on the road. I managed to get most of the bugs ironed except for this last one (hopefully). I can start the car up fine, however it sounds like it's mis-firing yet very subtle. Its acoustic tone resembles a WRX, if that paints a clearer picture.
What's wrong? I've captured a log during the initial start up in hopes someone with a keen sense can identify what I screwed up.
I am literally in the home stretch on getting my Miata back on the road. I managed to get most of the bugs ironed except for this last one (hopefully). I can start the car up fine, however it sounds like it's mis-firing yet very subtle. Its acoustic tone resembles a WRX, if that paints a clearer picture.
What's wrong? I've captured a log during the initial start up in hopes someone with a keen sense can identify what I screwed up.
#6
Hey Guys,
So I managed to do a few more things to help pin point my issue. Thanks for the suggestings about pulling my plugs. I pulled the plugs after a minute at idle. The outcome:
1-dry
2-wet
3-dry
4-wet
Then i checked each spark plug to ensure it's working, by grounding each plug to the valve cover and had my brother crank it over. All four plugs fired off.
After I ruled out any spark issues, I went to check compression on all 4 cylinder. 175psi on all 4 cylinders.
So, with all this information I strongly feel it may be my tune or my timing. Any suggestions? I've attached my tune to the first post if anyone would graciously take a quick look... =)
So I managed to do a few more things to help pin point my issue. Thanks for the suggestings about pulling my plugs. I pulled the plugs after a minute at idle. The outcome:
1-dry
2-wet
3-dry
4-wet
Then i checked each spark plug to ensure it's working, by grounding each plug to the valve cover and had my brother crank it over. All four plugs fired off.
After I ruled out any spark issues, I went to check compression on all 4 cylinder. 175psi on all 4 cylinders.
So, with all this information I strongly feel it may be my tune or my timing. Any suggestions? I've attached my tune to the first post if anyone would graciously take a quick look... =)
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Without any knowledge of your MS build. Or tune.
You have it set up in sequential mode for fuel. But its wired for batch. Or the other way around.
Or you have something weird in yoursetup.
What fuel injection harness. How did you build your MS.
Wild random *** guess.
You have it set up in sequential mode for fuel. But its wired for batch. Or the other way around.
Or you have something weird in yoursetup.
What fuel injection harness. How did you build your MS.
Wild random *** guess.
#9
I think i jumped the gun on this one. I forgot to test the injectors with a test light. so, injectors 1 and 3 doesnt fire off. injectors 2 and 4 fires off, which correlates with spark plugs 2 and 4 being wet.
I'll chase my wire for injector bank 1 and 3. Maybe its a broken connection???? i'll report back shortly.
I'll chase my wire for injector bank 1 and 3. Maybe its a broken connection???? i'll report back shortly.
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Here's more information:
- 1991 1.6 LNC NA RED, 5SP 2001 LSD
- Garret GT2560R
- Ebay intercooler
- 3" Turboback (open to atmosphere) with Electric diverter valve to stock exhaust
- ACT clutch/pp with OEM FW
- 460cc Rx7 Fuel Injectors (just cleaned, tested, flow matched)
- AEM WB LS1 Bosch
- Stock ignition
- New wires and plugs
- 175psi across all cylinders
- MBC
I purchased and built a MS2 V3 DIY kit. I've made my own jumper harness to integrate with the existing harness in the vehicle. I've also added a VTPS, AIT and Antilag.
I am using Tunerstudio MS Lite, V2.6.19
My MSQ attached. hope this helps. I'm presently armed with a multimeter testing the 1 and 3 injector banks.
- 1991 1.6 LNC NA RED, 5SP 2001 LSD
- Garret GT2560R
- Ebay intercooler
- 3" Turboback (open to atmosphere) with Electric diverter valve to stock exhaust
- ACT clutch/pp with OEM FW
- 460cc Rx7 Fuel Injectors (just cleaned, tested, flow matched)
- AEM WB LS1 Bosch
- Stock ignition
- New wires and plugs
- 175psi across all cylinders
- MBC
I purchased and built a MS2 V3 DIY kit. I've made my own jumper harness to integrate with the existing harness in the vehicle. I've also added a VTPS, AIT and Antilag.
I am using Tunerstudio MS Lite, V2.6.19
My MSQ attached. hope this helps. I'm presently armed with a multimeter testing the 1 and 3 injector banks.
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One of your injector banks isn't working.
A 91 miata is batch fuel injection. Injectors 1 and 3 are wired together, and so are 2 and 4.
Somewhere in all of your stuff you didn't hook up the injector drivers correctly.
Looking at your MSQ you are setup correctly, so its either a hardware issue with the megasquirt or your wiring harness.
Couple ways to test this.
I suggest swapping the wires for injectors 1&3 and 2&4 at the wiring harness. Then trying again. If plugs 2&4 are now the dry ones and 1&3 are wet then it is an issue within the megasquirt.
You can also check continuity between the fuel injector plugs and your wiring harness.
A 91 miata is batch fuel injection. Injectors 1 and 3 are wired together, and so are 2 and 4.
Somewhere in all of your stuff you didn't hook up the injector drivers correctly.
Looking at your MSQ you are setup correctly, so its either a hardware issue with the megasquirt or your wiring harness.
Couple ways to test this.
I suggest swapping the wires for injectors 1&3 and 2&4 at the wiring harness. Then trying again. If plugs 2&4 are now the dry ones and 1&3 are wet then it is an issue within the megasquirt.
You can also check continuity between the fuel injector plugs and your wiring harness.
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I want to know how you hooked the ecu connector to the db39.
I would scope the output of the injector driver. then the input. And see if the driver was dead.
@Ben and @Matt Cramer can be of help.
I would scope the output of the injector driver. then the input. And see if the driver was dead.
@Ben and @Matt Cramer can be of help.
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I want to know how you hooked the ecu connector to the db39.
I would scope the output of the injector driver. then the input. And see if the driver was dead.
@Ben and @Matt Cramer can be of help.
I would scope the output of the injector driver. then the input. And see if the driver was dead.
@Ben and @Matt Cramer can be of help.