Map for NA 1.6 ignition?
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Map for NA 1.6 ignition?
Running an MS2 v3.0. Does anyone have an ignition timing table using the bins for an NA application? I can only find turbo maps using up to 234kpa and i can get better resolution with something in the mindset of an NA 1.6 car. Searched google for a while but I couldn't find anything. Like just a screen shot of it would be perfect.
Thanks.
Thanks.
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This is not dyno optimized, just the result of a bunch of fiddling around on the street. Seems to work quite well- power is excellent and mileage is decent.
I'll note that with CA87 fuel, I very occasionally get a hint of knock when I apply a large amount of throttle at extremely low RPM, as when starting out from a stop and not wanting to spin the clutch too much.
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I'll also note that my map seems to be much more aggressive than what a lot of people are running on similar engines. I have found that, for the gasoline I have available, it is rather close to the detonation limit in the midrange. About a month ago I had a bit of an issue with the fueling leaning out slightly, and the engine responded by pinging quite a bit in the midrange at > 50% throttle or so.
On the plus side, the engine runs very well. It's extremely responsive and lively with this map, much more so than I typically expect a 1.6 to be.
On the plus side, the engine runs very well. It's extremely responsive and lively with this map, much more so than I typically expect a 1.6 to be.
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How is my engine like GLaDOS?
It's still alive.
Based on how conservative the maps are that I have seen all you pussies post, I keep thinking that I'm going to destroy this engine. But not only does it keep on living, it is astoundingly quick & responsive. I'm sure that my NOx emissions are probably through the roof, but damn it feels good.
One of these days I'll get off my *** and dyno it.
It's still alive.
Based on how conservative the maps are that I have seen all you pussies post, I keep thinking that I'm going to destroy this engine. But not only does it keep on living, it is astoundingly quick & responsive. I'm sure that my NOx emissions are probably through the roof, but damn it feels good.
One of these days I'll get off my *** and dyno it.
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How is my engine like GLaDOS?
It's still alive.
Based on how conservative the maps are that I have seen all you pussies post, I keep thinking that I'm going to destroy this engine. But not only does it keep on living, it is astoundingly quick & responsive. I'm sure that my NOx emissions are probably through the roof, but damn it feels good.
One of these days I'll get off my *** and dyno it.
It's still alive.
Based on how conservative the maps are that I have seen all you pussies post, I keep thinking that I'm going to destroy this engine. But not only does it keep on living, it is astoundingly quick & responsive. I'm sure that my NOx emissions are probably through the roof, but damn it feels good.
One of these days I'll get off my *** and dyno it.
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I'm 10-12* less advanced from Joe's tables on my VVT engines and I've heard knock on both from the dyno and from cruise. I also found MBT way earlier than you guys...and my dyno sheet backs it up. Weird. I'm not saying either party is wrong, but I know I'm doing it right.
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I'm 10-12* less advanced from Joe's tables on my VVT engines and I've heard knock on both from the dyno and from cruise. I also found MBT way earlier than you guys...and my dyno sheet backs it up. Weird. I'm not saying either party is wrong, but I know I'm doing it right.
Dann
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This is a valid and crucial point. I am speaking specifically to stock 1.6 engines here. An NB engine, or an NA with significant headwork, will have a higher VE at WOT and therefore a different MAP scaling.
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About a month ago, my fuel leaned out a tad for reasons I still haven't figure out. I don't have any logs of this, but my recollection from looking at the gauge is that it wasn't extremely lean- maybe in the high 13s or low 14s.
So I would say that, to be safe, you would want to proceed very cautiously if your desire is to run my spark map with AFRs any leaner than what I am running.
Also, bear in mind that my engine is almost 100% stock, including the exhaust. If your engine is breathing more freely than mine, you will have higher actual VE for a given MAP. So take that under advisement as well.
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