Help to improve a basemap (MS2)
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Hi everybody,
I have an MS2 made by Reverant.
Here are all the informations about my setup:
stock internals 1.8l VVT engine (but VVT is not supported for the moment)
MS2
Rx8 450cc injectors
Rotrex C30-74 supercharger with Air/water intercooler
Innovate LC1 wideband
Racing Beat header and exhaust
Flyin' Miata midpipe with high flow cat
10 PSI max at 7000rpm
The idle is very nice and I have no problem when I drive it but as you can see on this video, I have some balks that comes from my A/F table and/or ignition table (those problems don't come from a slipping belt of my supercharger as I have written in the vid
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https://vimeo.com/58926964
The map I'm using is a basemap and I haven't touch it so I think it needs some changes.![The Brain](https://www.miataturbo.net/images/smilies/the_brain.gif)
Here is the datalog I have made (car stopped):
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/megasquirt-18/68228-help-improve-basemap-ms2-capturebdu.jpg?dateline=1361468528)
You can download the log here: Free - Envoyez vos documents
I don't know if it could change the numbers but I will do another log on the road this weekend. (WOT)
Here is what I have (basemap) : (MSQ here: Free - Envoyez vos documents )
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/megasquirt-18/68229-help-improve-basemap-ms2-cartoa.jpg?dateline=1361468528)
A friend of mine has given me some advice so I have changed a few thing to try to "surround" the pressure recorded in the log: (MSQ here: Free - Envoyez vos documents )
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/megasquirt-18/68230-help-improve-basemap-ms2-modif1carto.jpg?dateline=1361468528)
The only changes I have made are the spark advance table and the VE table.
I don't want a super aggressive setup for my stock engine. Just something that work great on the road and on the track.
What do you think of those changes?
Do you have some advice about this?
I begin in the MS tuning world.
Any advice accepted! Thanks for your help![wink](https://www.miataturbo.net/images/smilies/wink.gif)
Edit: Here is my AFR table :
I have an MS2 made by Reverant.
Here are all the informations about my setup:
stock internals 1.8l VVT engine (but VVT is not supported for the moment)
MS2
Rx8 450cc injectors
Rotrex C30-74 supercharger with Air/water intercooler
Innovate LC1 wideband
Racing Beat header and exhaust
Flyin' Miata midpipe with high flow cat
10 PSI max at 7000rpm
The idle is very nice and I have no problem when I drive it but as you can see on this video, I have some balks that comes from my A/F table and/or ignition table (those problems don't come from a slipping belt of my supercharger as I have written in the vid
![no no](https://www.miataturbo.net/images/smilies/nono.gif)
https://vimeo.com/58926964
The map I'm using is a basemap and I haven't touch it so I think it needs some changes.
![The Brain](https://www.miataturbo.net/images/smilies/the_brain.gif)
Here is the datalog I have made (car stopped):
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/megasquirt-18/68228-help-improve-basemap-ms2-capturebdu.jpg?dateline=1361468528)
You can download the log here: Free - Envoyez vos documents
I don't know if it could change the numbers but I will do another log on the road this weekend. (WOT)
Here is what I have (basemap) : (MSQ here: Free - Envoyez vos documents )
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/megasquirt-18/68229-help-improve-basemap-ms2-cartoa.jpg?dateline=1361468528)
A friend of mine has given me some advice so I have changed a few thing to try to "surround" the pressure recorded in the log: (MSQ here: Free - Envoyez vos documents )
![](https://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/megasquirt-18/68230-help-improve-basemap-ms2-modif1carto.jpg?dateline=1361468528)
The only changes I have made are the spark advance table and the VE table.
I don't want a super aggressive setup for my stock engine. Just something that work great on the road and on the track.
What do you think of those changes?
Do you have some advice about this?
I begin in the MS tuning world.
Any advice accepted! Thanks for your help
![wink](https://www.miataturbo.net/images/smilies/wink.gif)
Edit: Here is my AFR table :
![](http://imageshack.us/a/img59/7869/afrtarget.jpg)
Last edited by Arny; 02-21-2013 at 01:28 PM.
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Arnauld, download TunerStudio and pay to upgrade to the best version. Then use VE Analyze Live (VEAL) to have the fuel table (VE) automatically tuned to match your target AFR table. All you need to do once VEAL is turned on is to drive your car around for a couple of hours and the program will tune your car correctly for fuel. It works very well and is very simple to use.
It will not tune spark.
It will not tune spark.
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I have bought a Walbro 255lph fuel pump to help my injectors.
And I think I have found why I have the problems that you can see in the video.
I have a lost sync problem that you can see on this log:
Free - Envoyez vos documents
The log sync reason is a 32 value. I have taken a look here:
https://www.miataturbo.net/megasquir...reasons-43775/
32 = Miata 99-00 - 0 cams seen
My car is 04' and it worked without problem before the MS and it has only 61000km (37900 miles). I have checked the cam sensor and the wiring seems good.
Do you know how can I fix this problem?
Thanks
And I think I have found why I have the problems that you can see in the video.
I have a lost sync problem that you can see on this log:
Free - Envoyez vos documents
The log sync reason is a 32 value. I have taken a look here:
https://www.miataturbo.net/megasquir...reasons-43775/
32 = Miata 99-00 - 0 cams seen
My car is 04' and it worked without problem before the MS and it has only 61000km (37900 miles). I have checked the cam sensor and the wiring seems good.
Do you know how can I fix this problem?
Thanks
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The lost sync always happens on acceleration over 4000rpm but it doesn't happen at every acceleration. On light acceleration and under 4000rpm, there is no problem.
What is a composite log?
You can find the datalog in the link above.![wink](https://www.miataturbo.net/images/smilies/wink.gif)
Edit: I don't think you can see the composite log without starting the sync error logger. I'm going to change the fuel pump because I don't want to make more WOT log without adding more fuel in high rpm. I will try to do a new log with this sync error logger, but the next step is to tune my fuel map (advice welcome) with the Walbro fuel pump before doing a new WOT log.
What is a composite log?
You can find the datalog in the link above.
![wink](https://www.miataturbo.net/images/smilies/wink.gif)
Edit: I don't think you can see the composite log without starting the sync error logger. I'm going to change the fuel pump because I don't want to make more WOT log without adding more fuel in high rpm. I will try to do a new log with this sync error logger, but the next step is to tune my fuel map (advice welcome) with the Walbro fuel pump before doing a new WOT log.
Last edited by Arny; 03-28-2013 at 08:46 AM.
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Yep, but I was refering to the fuel map.
The fuel target stays the same but I think I have to change the values in the VE table. I will use VEAnalyze to make it right but I think if I stay with the same VE table with the larger fuel pump, it will be way too rich at the beginning and I don't think it's a good idea for my catalyser.
The fuel target stays the same but I think I have to change the values in the VE table. I will use VEAnalyze to make it right but I think if I stay with the same VE table with the larger fuel pump, it will be way too rich at the beginning and I don't think it's a good idea for my catalyser.