Boost target table - how does yours look...?
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Boost target table - how does yours look...?
Hi guys,
after I got my MS3(X) running nicely I took a ride yesterday and got the VE dialed in quite a bit.
As I cruised at the Autobahn I had one spot that I had a little problem...
Scenario is - light throttle cruise TP ~30%, speed is a t 180 kph (~ 111mph) and boost is around peak (170kPa). The boost control is working perfectly well when I give the throttle a nice stab, but at that low throttle the MAP is starting to oscillate...
See:
This is how my boost target table looks at the moment:
As you can see - at 30% TPS the boost is exactly between to different targets (I guess the MS interpolates them..?).
The oscillations can well be because of my rough VEtable - but could also be hunting between the two different boost targets. (?)
So I thought a bit about how a correct boost target map would look like...?!
How does yours look?
Thanks
after I got my MS3(X) running nicely I took a ride yesterday and got the VE dialed in quite a bit.
As I cruised at the Autobahn I had one spot that I had a little problem...
Scenario is - light throttle cruise TP ~30%, speed is a t 180 kph (~ 111mph) and boost is around peak (170kPa). The boost control is working perfectly well when I give the throttle a nice stab, but at that low throttle the MAP is starting to oscillate...
See:
This is how my boost target table looks at the moment:
As you can see - at 30% TPS the boost is exactly between to different targets (I guess the MS interpolates them..?).
The oscillations can well be because of my rough VEtable - but could also be hunting between the two different boost targets. (?)
So I thought a bit about how a correct boost target map would look like...?!
How does yours look?
Thanks
Last edited by Zaphod; 06-11-2012 at 04:51 AM.
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I am going to try for sure - I am always a bit scared of this high D values, because I thought they would bring oscillations...
Ken seid in this thread (where some other member asked about bc tuning) at Msextra just some days ago:
Maybe 100 is sparingly... it all depends on point of view...
Edit:
I have noticed, that the PID values on all the Miata MS2/3 tunes I have seen tend to be very close...
Ken seid in this thread (where some other member asked about bc tuning) at Msextra just some days ago:
just keep adding P to counteract the initial overshoot as you add I. Once you get it working with minimal overshoot with just P and I, and you have it holding the target across the rev range, you can add some D (sparingly) to get rid of overshoot.
Edit:
I have noticed, that the PID values on all the Miata MS2/3 tunes I have seen tend to be very close...
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