New guy hailing from Wisconsin with turbo aspiritions
#1
New guy hailing from Wisconsin with turbo aspiritions
Hello All,
I guess I should stop lurking. I graduated from college here in Wisconsin and landed a full time job. The day after I heard I was hired, I drove my Honda Fit 5 hours and 4 states away to get my first; '94 Miata with 88k miles on the clock.
The car is black on black and came with the stock daiseys (pretty sure they are solid spokes) and some Kosei K-1's. Sadly I wasn't willing to buy the hard top that was on it for a grand so I left without it.
I have been working on my own vehicles (cars and bike) for the last 5 years or so. I think the most in depth work was a clutch replacement on my 94 civic. Since then, I have befriended a guy that was a full time mechanic for 5 years and now is going back to school. This whole thing is probably his fault since I helped him swap a 1JZ into his 1988 Toyota supra.
I just purchased a MegaSquirt II kit from DIYAutoTune with a few mods:
x MegaSquirt-II Programmable EFI System PCB3.0 - Kit w/ BLACK CASE
x MegaSquirt Stimulator v2.2 - UnAssembled Kit (MSStim22-K)
x MegaSquirt Relay Control 'ModKit' (VTEC, TVIS, Fans)
x MegaSquirt Pullup Resistors 'ModKit' (mk-pullup)
(I know I will need a way to get from the MegaSquirt's DB37 to the car's wiring harness, but I figured I would actually build and test the thing first with the MegaStim)
My plan is as follows:
Build the MegaSquirt
Install Wide Band O2 sensor & gauge and use AFM's temp sensor
Get the car running with the MegaSquirt
Install the BEGi Alpha Omega turbo system w/ Garrett 2560
Install DIYAutoTune's IAT Probe kit
Flyin Miata Stage 1 clutch kit w/ lightened stock flywheel or the Happy Meal
EnthusaCar 2.5" turbo exhuast
Koyo Radiator with coolant reroute
I wish the FAQ MegaSquirt threads still had all those pictures instead of dead links.
Please let me know what you think.
I guess I should stop lurking. I graduated from college here in Wisconsin and landed a full time job. The day after I heard I was hired, I drove my Honda Fit 5 hours and 4 states away to get my first; '94 Miata with 88k miles on the clock.
The car is black on black and came with the stock daiseys (pretty sure they are solid spokes) and some Kosei K-1's. Sadly I wasn't willing to buy the hard top that was on it for a grand so I left without it.
I have been working on my own vehicles (cars and bike) for the last 5 years or so. I think the most in depth work was a clutch replacement on my 94 civic. Since then, I have befriended a guy that was a full time mechanic for 5 years and now is going back to school. This whole thing is probably his fault since I helped him swap a 1JZ into his 1988 Toyota supra.
I just purchased a MegaSquirt II kit from DIYAutoTune with a few mods:
x MegaSquirt-II Programmable EFI System PCB3.0 - Kit w/ BLACK CASE
x MegaSquirt Stimulator v2.2 - UnAssembled Kit (MSStim22-K)
x MegaSquirt Relay Control 'ModKit' (VTEC, TVIS, Fans)
x MegaSquirt Pullup Resistors 'ModKit' (mk-pullup)
(I know I will need a way to get from the MegaSquirt's DB37 to the car's wiring harness, but I figured I would actually build and test the thing first with the MegaStim)
My plan is as follows:
Build the MegaSquirt
Install Wide Band O2 sensor & gauge and use AFM's temp sensor
Get the car running with the MegaSquirt
Install the BEGi Alpha Omega turbo system w/ Garrett 2560
Install DIYAutoTune's IAT Probe kit
Flyin Miata Stage 1 clutch kit w/ lightened stock flywheel or the Happy Meal
EnthusaCar 2.5" turbo exhuast
Koyo Radiator with coolant reroute
I wish the FAQ MegaSquirt threads still had all those pictures instead of dead links.
Please let me know what you think.
#5
If you are building the MS yourself and not going with a PNP version, spend the extra bit of money and go for MS3X. In the long run it is a better platform to start from.
What are you end goals for the car. So that this way we can better help you get there. For example I would install the IAT sensor, add injectors, and install the clutch before you even go for the turbo. I would also not think about the new Begi setup if you want it in a timely fashion.
What are you end goals for the car. So that this way we can better help you get there. For example I would install the IAT sensor, add injectors, and install the clutch before you even go for the turbo. I would also not think about the new Begi setup if you want it in a timely fashion.
#6
If you are building the MS yourself and not going with a PNP version, spend the extra bit of money and go for MS3X. In the long run it is a better platform to start from.
What are you end goals for the car. So that this way we can better help you get there. For example I would install the IAT sensor, add injectors, and install the clutch before you even go for the turbo. I would also not think about the new Begi setup if you want it in a timely fashion.
What are you end goals for the car. So that this way we can better help you get there. For example I would install the IAT sensor, add injectors, and install the clutch before you even go for the turbo. I would also not think about the new Begi setup if you want it in a timely fashion.
IMO, if you can swing it I'd get the FM 2 clutch happy meal. There isn't "That" much of an effort used to move the level 2 clutch. Once I broke mine in, it's been butter since.
You may be able to get 'better' results by building/piecing together your own kit. I have a S3 kit from begi however I plan to 'eventually' go the efr/artech route.
But even with a begi cast mani, i could still prob do a gtx28 + tial vband exhaust housing with external wastegate (artech alltehthings) and still be happy.
#7
Thanks everyone for the welcome and the replies.
sixshooter:
I'm looking for a way to connect the MS to the factory wiring harness via the factory ECU plugs. I know there is the DIY Breakout Board for $90 and the 2' pigtail for $50, but that seems awfully steep for an adapter cable.
viperormiata:
I really wanted to but it wasn't in the cards
shuiend:
I haven't found any applications of the MS3X that are better than the MS2 and matter for my build. I'm not doing 2 step launch or Methanol injection. I would like to hear more than just people's opinions about why it is better though.
My goals are ~200 whp, daily drivable (I do 100 miles a day to work with stop and go traffic for some of it), learning, and lots of fun.
I have been planning on doing the build in stages like you said.
I'm not super concerned with timeliness on the build. I originally wanted the BEGi S4 but it has been discontinued.
Girz0r:
I'm not planning on over 318 ft/lbs why would I get the super sized. I think I will go the Happy meal route though instead of stock Flywheel lightened.
Thanks again everyone.
sixshooter:
I'm looking for a way to connect the MS to the factory wiring harness via the factory ECU plugs. I know there is the DIY Breakout Board for $90 and the 2' pigtail for $50, but that seems awfully steep for an adapter cable.
viperormiata:
I really wanted to but it wasn't in the cards
shuiend:
I haven't found any applications of the MS3X that are better than the MS2 and matter for my build. I'm not doing 2 step launch or Methanol injection. I would like to hear more than just people's opinions about why it is better though.
My goals are ~200 whp, daily drivable (I do 100 miles a day to work with stop and go traffic for some of it), learning, and lots of fun.
I have been planning on doing the build in stages like you said.
I'm not super concerned with timeliness on the build. I originally wanted the BEGi S4 but it has been discontinued.
Girz0r:
I'm not planning on over 318 ft/lbs why would I get the super sized. I think I will go the Happy meal route though instead of stock Flywheel lightened.
Thanks again everyone.
#10
While yes, a level 1 clutch only solution 'should' be more than you need with such low goals. I'd highly recommend picking it up with the lightened flywheel simply for quicker throttle response. (very noticeable pickup)
And to my link above, I'd say get that instead if you 'do' plan on getting the flywheel package bc ($150 more) isn't too much. Also the level 2 clutch leaves you with more headroom & options on the table 'if & when' you feel like you want more tq holding capacities.
Id say, don't hold FM's word on clutch feel too heavy in the description. My FM lvl2 clutch+flywheel combo was just broken in a few hundred miles ago. Not sure how I went through life not knowing this amazing engagement feeling. I have a MSM with no boost at the moment and it's still snickety-snick shifting through the gearing.
Last edited by Girz0r; 11-26-2014 at 04:04 PM.
#11
I wouldn't look at that way of 'not needing' it due to tq rating. It's more of a durability thing in my view. You simply have the "option" to hold that high of rating.
I have a MSM but currently I'm not even a smidge above 1psi in terms of power nor am I expecting to hit that high of a mark with torque in the future. BUT! I have the option to beat on it a little even in semi stock form.
The higher rated clutch leaves options on the table "IN CASE" you ever want more powaah while still being a reliable heavy duty clutch.
I have a MSM but currently I'm not even a smidge above 1psi in terms of power nor am I expecting to hit that high of a mark with torque in the future. BUT! I have the option to beat on it a little even in semi stock form.
The higher rated clutch leaves options on the table "IN CASE" you ever want more powaah while still being a reliable heavy duty clutch.
#15
Wisconsin is a pretty big state. Where approximately are you located? There were a handful of turbo Miatas at the last dyno day in Illinois a few weeks back to give you some ideas on how to put a kit together and for rides to know what different power levels feel like.
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