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I'm not sure if that is in response to me or not, but to be clear, I'm not suggesting we make some new laws now.
I'm just saying that I would rather focus on things that help us, like concealed carry rights.
Yes, it would be great to be able to buy a suppressor off the shelf with no tax stamp, and streamlining the NFA process needs to happen, but at least they are still attainable.
If the POS in Vegas had used one, odds are good that they would go away forever.
I also wish we would push harder for stricter sentencing.
I am 100% for extremely harsh sentences for felons who commit any crime with a gun.
Recidivists are by far the biggest source of firearm homicides.
I'm just saying that I would rather focus on things that help us, like concealed carry rights.
Yes, it would be great to be able to buy a suppressor off the shelf with no tax stamp, and streamlining the NFA process needs to happen, but at least they are still attainable.
If the POS in Vegas had used one, odds are good that they would go away forever.
I also wish we would push harder for stricter sentencing.
I am 100% for extremely harsh sentences for felons who commit any crime with a gun.
Recidivists are by far the biggest source of firearm homicides.
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I just did a little research on this because I know it to be true, but wanted some numbers.
Yes, the report is from 2005, but I can't think or a reason for numbers to change much.
This report is from the BJS, not a private bullshit thinktank or propaganda group, and although not specific to firearm crimes, it's pretty ******* unbelievable... an average of 77% of all people who are released from prison are re-arrested within 5 years. **** me.
https://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=4986
Among state prisoners released in 30 states in 2005—
Yes, the report is from 2005, but I can't think or a reason for numbers to change much.
This report is from the BJS, not a private bullshit thinktank or propaganda group, and although not specific to firearm crimes, it's pretty ******* unbelievable... an average of 77% of all people who are released from prison are re-arrested within 5 years. **** me.
https://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=4986
Among state prisoners released in 30 states in 2005—
- About two-thirds (67.8%) of released prisoners were arrested for a new crime within 3 years, and three-quarters (76.6%) were arrested within 5 years.
- Within 5 years of release, 82.1% of property offenders were arrested for a new crime, compared to 76.9% of drug offenders, 73.6% of public order offenders, and 71.3% of violent offenders.
- More than a third (36.8%) of all prisoners who were arrested within 5 years of release were arrested within the first 6 months after release, with more than half (56.7%) arrested by the end of the first year.
- Two in five (42.3%) released prisoners were either not arrested or arrested once in the 5 years after their release.
- A sixth (16.1%) of released prisoners were responsible for almost half (48.4%) of the nearly 1.2 million arrests that occurred in the 5-year follow-up period.
- An estimated 10.9% of released prisoners were arrested in a state other than the one that released them during the 5-year follow-up period.
- Within 5 years of release, 84.1% of inmates who were age 24 or younger at release were arrested, compared to 78.6% of inmates ages 25 to 39 and 69.2% of those age 40 or older.
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In other news, I finally bought a Bushnell TRS-25. A few years ago, I shot with one mounted on a buddies .22lr AR and always thought I should get one. These are considered a benchmark for budget red-dots. I've watched the prices come down over the years from the $120 to $99, and then within the past two years, $69 pretty much everywhere. They were $50 on Amazon a few days ago (currently $54) and I couldn't say no anymore.
It's on my folding-stock Ruger 10/22... hopefully get out this weekend to shoot it.
It's on my folding-stock Ruger 10/22... hopefully get out this weekend to shoot it.
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Yeah the trash-25 is great for the money. I have used one on my suppressed Ruger pistol for years.
About recidivism, yeah, I can echo that. When I did criminal defense, the vast majority of my clients were frequent flyers. I've seen those statistics before and they are no surprise. If you want to drop crime, get rid of criminals. The longer you take to catch them and the sooner you release them, the more crimes they commit. Chicago with its 12 percent murder clearance rate and wrist slap sentencing is a prime example of how to do it wrong.
To fix this problem you need prosecutors willing to take the serious cases to trial and you need judges willing to give out maximum sentences afterwards. It's a lot of work and a lot of judges and prosecutors in big cities would rather plead everything down than work through a big docket. But it's the only way that works
About recidivism, yeah, I can echo that. When I did criminal defense, the vast majority of my clients were frequent flyers. I've seen those statistics before and they are no surprise. If you want to drop crime, get rid of criminals. The longer you take to catch them and the sooner you release them, the more crimes they commit. Chicago with its 12 percent murder clearance rate and wrist slap sentencing is a prime example of how to do it wrong.
To fix this problem you need prosecutors willing to take the serious cases to trial and you need judges willing to give out maximum sentences afterwards. It's a lot of work and a lot of judges and prosecutors in big cities would rather plead everything down than work through a big docket. But it's the only way that works
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Curious question. I recently acquired a free mossberg 500, anyone ever try the bullpup conversion on one? Looks badass and seems like it may be a good addition to the home defense arsenal, but I have never shot a bullpup 12ga. Any pros or cons? The only other shotguns I own are a yildiz over/under (the dove slayer) and a remington 11-48.
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Primary pros of a bullpup as I understand it is that they're far more stable/easier to shoot as the weight is significantly more balanced. Scientifically that makes sense to me, as instead of having a 30" barrel cantilevered out over the front of your forward hand, the majority of the weight can be held much closer to your body with nearly all of the weight between your trigger hand and your support hand.
They're also shorter, of course, which would improve their usefulness in close quarters battle. That means that in theory, it should be better in a home defense situation. In reality, if you're in a home defense situation and you're walking around in your home, you're very likely doing it wrong.
IMO: Slidefire/bump stocks were never built or intended to make it easier for disabled people to shoot. I could certainly see how they might try to use that argument IOT sell them with less scrutiny. The exact and specific purpose of this type of weapon accessory is/was to provide nearly cyclic capability in a world where such weapons had been rendered effectively illegal.
They're also shorter, of course, which would improve their usefulness in close quarters battle. That means that in theory, it should be better in a home defense situation. In reality, if you're in a home defense situation and you're walking around in your home, you're very likely doing it wrong.
IMO: Slidefire/bump stocks were never built or intended to make it easier for disabled people to shoot. I could certainly see how they might try to use that argument IOT sell them with less scrutiny. The exact and specific purpose of this type of weapon accessory is/was to provide nearly cyclic capability in a world where such weapons had been rendered effectively illegal.
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Theres a thing called an "arm brace" which was for disabled people to be able to strap the gun to their wrist and have more control over the rifle. Those are now used on "pistol" versions of ARs and AKs as a loophole not to need ATF approval for a Short Barrel Rifle. It's legal as long you don't shoulder it (cuz then it's a stock not an arm brace). Really nothing to do with bump stocks at all.
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I wouldn't necessarily say they'll start popping up on crime scenes. The proposed HPA still requires a background check for suppressors, just no tax stamp is needed. The amount of firearms that are used in crimes that are bought legally in US is minuscule, like in the double digits its so insignificant. But I can see your worry, and this was the week they were supposed to vote for HPA and then all of a sudden this stuff goes down, and Hillary immediately attacks the NRA and silencers? Something seems off to me. Not suggesting anything, just saying.
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Theres a thing called an "arm brace" which was for disabled people to be able to strap the gun to their wrist and have more control over the rifle. Those are now used on "pistol" versions of ARs and AKs as a loophole not to need ATF approval for a Short Barrel Rifle. It's legal as long you don't shoulder it (cuz then it's a stock not an arm brace). Really nothing to do with bump stocks at all.
The ATF originally said, "it's totally cool to shoulder it" then they backtracked and said "Naw man, it's totes a felony to shoulder it"
Then they reversed that decision and said, "We're dumb, it's totally not a felony to put it against your shoulder again."
As for the original bump fire stocks, they were designed to fire with backwards pressure of the rifle against the shoulder, thus making it easier for people with hand injuries to operate.
Obviously, people immediately just started using them for fun mode.
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That is no longer the case.
The ATF originally said, "it's totally cool to shoulder it" then they backtracked and said "Naw man, it's totes a felony to shoulder it"
Then they reversed that decision and said, "We're dumb, it's totally not a felony to put it against your shoulder again."
As for the original bump fire stocks, they were designed to fire with backwards pressure of the rifle against the shoulder, thus making it easier for people with hand injuries to operate.
Obviously, people immediately just started using them for fun mode.
The ATF originally said, "it's totally cool to shoulder it" then they backtracked and said "Naw man, it's totes a felony to shoulder it"
Then they reversed that decision and said, "We're dumb, it's totally not a felony to put it against your shoulder again."
As for the original bump fire stocks, they were designed to fire with backwards pressure of the rifle against the shoulder, thus making it easier for people with hand injuries to operate.
Obviously, people immediately just started using them for fun mode.
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Prices have gone down again.
I figured that after Vegas, there would be a few months of craziness... the fact that not only has it not happened, but that I've see some record lows is fairly telling of something.
I've always been a fan of SchuylerArmsCo. They have great prices on my favorite AeroPrecision stuff and occasional other deals. Right now, an AP stripped upper/lower combo is $85 and a buffer tube kit is $30. A local shop has the upper/lower combo on their shelves for $169... ******* double.
PSA's nitride BCG's lately for $59 are also pretty incredible.
The ammo rebates from Remington are also basically bringing .223 down to what we were seeing 10 years ago.
Plus, I think there's some sort of conspiracy going on amongst manufacturers with their rebate programs. Every other month or so, another major player throws down with a rebate program, but never at the same time as another.
Savage has their never-ending factor deals... current awesomeness is a $50 prepaid Visa on bolt-action rimfire. Dicks or Field&Stream have Rascals for $149 year-round. Most places have them bit cheaper and online places around $20 cheaper.
The problem is that retail prices go up accordingly during rebate times... not a full $50, but a good $25 or so. Still, solid deal. Before I bought from Buds and paid $20 to an FFL, I'd order from Dicks.
Savage Arms : Promotions
https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/...page/1/sort/6a
The MKii FV for $100 after rebate (plus FFL) is pretty smoking deal... the Savage bull-barrel rimfires might as well be advertised as "match"... they're ridiculously accurate ootb. Trigger jobs are very simple to do. My FVSR is **** accurate with CCI SV.
It is a bit infuriating though that a Rascal (single-shot-bolt) kids toy is going for more than a borderline entry-level precision trainer that magazine-fed. No way Rascals have anywhere near the production costs of a MKii.
I figured that after Vegas, there would be a few months of craziness... the fact that not only has it not happened, but that I've see some record lows is fairly telling of something.
I've always been a fan of SchuylerArmsCo. They have great prices on my favorite AeroPrecision stuff and occasional other deals. Right now, an AP stripped upper/lower combo is $85 and a buffer tube kit is $30. A local shop has the upper/lower combo on their shelves for $169... ******* double.
PSA's nitride BCG's lately for $59 are also pretty incredible.
The ammo rebates from Remington are also basically bringing .223 down to what we were seeing 10 years ago.
Plus, I think there's some sort of conspiracy going on amongst manufacturers with their rebate programs. Every other month or so, another major player throws down with a rebate program, but never at the same time as another.
Savage has their never-ending factor deals... current awesomeness is a $50 prepaid Visa on bolt-action rimfire. Dicks or Field&Stream have Rascals for $149 year-round. Most places have them bit cheaper and online places around $20 cheaper.
The problem is that retail prices go up accordingly during rebate times... not a full $50, but a good $25 or so. Still, solid deal. Before I bought from Buds and paid $20 to an FFL, I'd order from Dicks.
Savage Arms : Promotions
https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/...page/1/sort/6a
The MKii FV for $100 after rebate (plus FFL) is pretty smoking deal... the Savage bull-barrel rimfires might as well be advertised as "match"... they're ridiculously accurate ootb. Trigger jobs are very simple to do. My FVSR is **** accurate with CCI SV.
It is a bit infuriating though that a Rascal (single-shot-bolt) kids toy is going for more than a borderline entry-level precision trainer that magazine-fed. No way Rascals have anywhere near the production costs of a MKii.
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Finished this up last night... trying to say light. AERO lower with PSA LPK and an ALG trigger. The stock is MFT and very light. 16" scout profile 6.8spc barrel from ARP. The handguard is no-name Chinese pos, but very light. This gun will get beat up, so the cheapo handguard is more of an experiment than anything else.
I've really become a fan of ALG products lately... great stuff thats priced cheaper than just about anything thats comparable in quality. Their periodic blem and holiday sales have some really great deals.
I've really become a fan of ALG products lately... great stuff thats priced cheaper than just about anything thats comparable in quality. Their periodic blem and holiday sales have some really great deals.
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I am going hunting for the first time in 6 or 8 years. Looking at the weather report, it's supposed to rain in the morning opening day. The gun I plan to use is a Winchester model 94 lever action carbine.
I really like this rifle, as it is absolutely dead-nuts accurate out to 60 yards, which is as far a shot as I am going to get in the woods. So, I'd really like for this piece of mechanical sexiness to not get all rusty. A friend recommended "gun treatment", which I confess I have never even heard of before. He swears it's like a raincoat for your firearm, and will protect anything you spray it on.
Anyone ever use it? Any pros or cons? Any recommendations either way?
I really like this rifle, as it is absolutely dead-nuts accurate out to 60 yards, which is as far a shot as I am going to get in the woods. So, I'd really like for this piece of mechanical sexiness to not get all rusty. A friend recommended "gun treatment", which I confess I have never even heard of before. He swears it's like a raincoat for your firearm, and will protect anything you spray it on.
Anyone ever use it? Any pros or cons? Any recommendations either way?
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I am going hunting for the first time in 6 or 8 years. Looking at the weather report, it's supposed to rain in the morning opening day. The gun I plan to use is a Winchester model 94 lever action carbine.
I really like this rifle, as it is absolutely dead-nuts accurate out to 60 yards, which is as far a shot as I am going to get in the woods. So, I'd really like for this piece of mechanical sexiness to not get all rusty. A friend recommended "gun treatment", which I confess I have never even heard of before. He swears it's like a raincoat for your firearm, and will protect anything you spray it on.
Anyone ever use it? Any pros or cons? Any recommendations either way?
I really like this rifle, as it is absolutely dead-nuts accurate out to 60 yards, which is as far a shot as I am going to get in the woods. So, I'd really like for this piece of mechanical sexiness to not get all rusty. A friend recommended "gun treatment", which I confess I have never even heard of before. He swears it's like a raincoat for your firearm, and will protect anything you spray it on.
Anyone ever use it? Any pros or cons? Any recommendations either way?
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If you're going to be hunting in wet weather a lot, then buy a gun designed for it... every manufacturer makes every model in a stainless/synthetic for just that type of need. For a "regular" guns, there's no reason you should spend any extra time prepping to run in the occasional wet condition vs. dry. Proper preventative maintenance to include clean, lube, oil, etc... should ensure your gun fires just fine even in a monsoon.