Yet Another Gun Thread
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Probably has a shitty barrel and fails at bumpfire failure. "misfire.." I'd bet him 10 bucks every one of those would fire with full hammer drop...
Edit: That dude is a total ******* toolbox. Thinks his 2 door Toyota Corolla is a ******* race car..
Wow, he can spin 185mm wide tires... I had a garden tractor once that did better burnouts on 12" wide tires.
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Guarantees you won't see the comments.
Where are you getting this $0.19/round delivered? With shipping everywhere comes out to 20$ a box of 50 rounds.....
How cheap do I want it? 9 cents a round. Thats what I can load 9x19 for.
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http://www.sgammo.com/product/brown-...fmj-brown-bear
No, you cannot load them for 9 cents (well, maybe you can after spending $300 in equipment and all day working on them). As I said earlier in the thread. You re-loaders bug the hell out of me <G>. You spend more time picking up brass out of the mud than shooting your gun. Yes, I know it is a hobby but people think my hobbies suck too!
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$179 for 1000 rounds + $15 shipping for 20 boxes:
http://www.sgammo.com/product/brown-...fmj-brown-bear
No, you cannot load them for 9 cents (well, maybe you can after spending $300 in equipment and all day working on them). As I said earlier in the thread. You re-loaders bug the hell out of me <G>. You spend more time picking up brass out of the mud than shooting your gun. Yes, I know it is a hobby but people think my hobbies suck too!
http://www.sgammo.com/product/brown-...fmj-brown-bear
No, you cannot load them for 9 cents (well, maybe you can after spending $300 in equipment and all day working on them). As I said earlier in the thread. You re-loaders bug the hell out of me <G>. You spend more time picking up brass out of the mud than shooting your gun. Yes, I know it is a hobby but people think my hobbies suck too!
I has one of these:
...And all the free lead I can carry away and I don't mess with gas checks in handguns. Once I get rolling it takes me about an hour to cast about 250 - 350 lead bullets. After they're lubed and sized they go in storage for loading. Since I'm super cheap I bought a Lee Progressive 1000 press, and once I get rolling on that can load about 350 bullets an hour. Kinda slow because I check every case for powder charge and check OAL of loaded cartridge.
Yeah our shop has a tumbler, presses, tons of dies, a lead furnace, molds, etc.. Do you count the cost of a welder, grinder, drill, or hand tools in a turbo build? I don't. Also don't count the cost of any equipment or my time in reloading. If I can crank out 500 loads in 3 hours to save $150.00 in handgun ammo then yahtzee!
Every visit to the range yields me about 200 empty hulls others have discarded. Sometimes more, sometimes less. Last box of 1000 CCI small pistol primers was on sale @ Cabelas for $19.99, so they're $0.019 call it $0.02 a primer. Last 1 pound bottle of powder was $19.99, pound has 7000 grains of powder, so its $0.0028/grain of powder. My 9mm loads use IIRC ~5.5 grains of powder per load, so call it $0.02/load of powder.
Bullet: Free
Case: Free
Primer: $0.02
Powder: $0.02
Yeah, $0.04 a trigger pull for lead plinking ammo. 9mm Bullets I bought today cost me $0.057 each for Sierra 125gr JHPs and need about 6.4gr of powder which is still roughly $0.02/charge.
Is loading your own ammo a pain in the ***? Yes. Does it cost money to get setup? Yes. I am however lucky some other friends have invested a little in equipment to help the sickness.
Tumber was about $50
Lead furnace $70
Ingot Molds (angle iron) $6
Bullet Molds $20
Progressive Press $170
Digital Scale $100
Die sets ~$30 each
Single stage press $20
Micrometer set $100
Dial calipers $40
Case trimmer $40
Primer pocket tool $15
Case deburrrrrrrrrrer $40
Those are some rough estimates on costs of equipment. You don't need a fancy progressive press to load. We started out with 1/3rd of whats listed and were still loading ****. Just got a little.. uhm, out of control? To be honest, I have fun loading. Friday night instead of wasting our time at the bar we'll have a BBQ, some beer, load a little, shoot a little, shoot the bullshit, drink more beer... Its not for everybody, and at the same time I still buy Herter's steel cased .223 ammo to shoot or sit on for a rainy day even though we're loading our own.
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FWIW, I looked into rolling my own a few times but I couldn't justify the expense. I primarily shoot 22s so my $/fun goes quite a long way.
Made an offer of $400 on a bubba SKS last night. Will be interesting to see if the guy takes my offer (ad said FIRM). Would cost me about $350+ to turn my SKS into what he has (sale includes some extra mags and 100 rounds of ammo). If I get it I'll sell my SKS for some quick $$$ to pay for part of it.
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Made an offer of $400 on a bubba SKS last night. Will be interesting to see if the guy takes my offer (ad said FIRM). Would cost me about $350+ to turn my SKS into what he has (sale includes some extra mags and 100 rounds of ammo). If I get it I'll sell my SKS for some quick $$$ to pay for part of it.
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once a bubba, always a bubba
I don't understand the appeal of owning firearms of questionable quality and practicality when there are so many better options available.
Why buy a Yugoslavian SKS when you can have a real Russian one for <$100 more? Why bother with composite stocks, detachable magazines and other modifications that do nothing but booger up an already adequate carbine?
Please prove to me how throwing a bunch of Tapco bits on a rifle and smearing it with duracoat (which amounts to nothing more than smegma) makes the rifle any better.
I don't understand the appeal of owning firearms of questionable quality and practicality when there are so many better options available.
Why buy a Yugoslavian SKS when you can have a real Russian one for <$100 more? Why bother with composite stocks, detachable magazines and other modifications that do nothing but booger up an already adequate carbine?
Please prove to me how throwing a bunch of Tapco bits on a rifle and smearing it with duracoat (which amounts to nothing more than smegma) makes the rifle any better.
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I would take a bone stock underfolder AK over *.sks ANY day of the week. "Combat carbine" in the 21st century with 10 round stripper clips? I'll stick to 30 round box magazines and 70 round drums. Only thing I've ever liked about an SKS is the bolt locks open on last round fired.
How about this?
Overall Length 33 in (84 cm)
Stock Retracted 29.8 in (76 cm)
Basically same length as a bullpup SKS shown in the video.
#440
it's either coke or heroin, depends how the fighting is that particular day
make you own so I can laugh at how quickly you will die