Yet Another Gun Thread
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Pen, I have one in .40 that was my first gun purchase. While I can shoot accurate as hell all day long with that thing, be aware there is little aftermarket support. The best I've found was a reduced recoil guide spring, from zahal armory, iirc.
Mine is my "couch gun", it stays in an armrest. Only thing I've done is a laser and a tacticool paintjob. Oh and mags are generally a bit pricey.
Mine is my "couch gun", it stays in an armrest. Only thing I've done is a laser and a tacticool paintjob. Oh and mags are generally a bit pricey.
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As for the PMR-30, I refuse to buy Keltec products until they unfuck their whole business model, starting with production and quality control. KT has always been a huge disaster as a company IMHO. They essentially build niche market toys that are somehow incredibly popular with anybody you wouldn't label a "Fudd", yet they stop at about 80% of the R&D process and release crap quality products that customers put up with because they're cheap and "cool"... except then they don't produce enough of them to keep the price down.
This is why you can't find any of their really cool stuff for less than double MSRP. I've finally started to see the SU16's come down to "reasonable" (as in, like $600), but that's still more than you can build an AR15 for currently, and the only metal part on those is the barrel... how the hell do they get so much for those?
I'll know KT has fixed their **** when they haven't tried to release ANYTHING new in 3 straight years and I can find Sub2000's and RMR-30's everywhere for $300.
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I too have been looking at the 9mm sub2000, but Ive resisted buying one since I already have my Beretta carbine that doesnt get shot enough.
For some reason Ive also had the urge to pick up one of the many variations of stamped steel boxy pistols (9mm or 45acp) like a mac-10. I think I just like them because theyre ugly.
For some reason Ive also had the urge to pick up one of the many variations of stamped steel boxy pistols (9mm or 45acp) like a mac-10. I think I just like them because theyre ugly.
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The sub 2k is pretty sweet, but I carry .40 so its no problem. however I have had no issue with kel-tec to be honest. Maybe I got lucky or I baby the weapon too much. I used to have a PLR-16 for about a few months, but it was bare bones so I sold it after I just couldnt find the handguards and ****.
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Finally got out to the range with my handloads... first time REALLY trying to shoot for accuracy. All shots are with a bone-stock G19 @25ft, strong-hand supported, iscocles stance, one shot about every 1.5 seconds.
I suppose I could have taken more time for each shot, but I usually don't concentrate near as much on the basics as I did for this "testing".
All loads are mixed brass, 115gr Ranier Plated Round-nose@1.145", Alliant Power Pistol, 5.5/5.7/5.9grains, with 3 different primers (Rem 1.5/Winchester/Wolf) for each powder charge. I shot 10rds of each mix, 90rds total... warmed up with a few mags of WWB first though.
Here are a few of the targets... best group was about 3.25" with 5.5gr and Winchester SPP's. The Remington primers hit much harder than the Winchesters and the Wolf's were in between. The 5.9gr/Remington felt like a +P Corbon. I learned a lot... like how freaking obvious it is that I pull all my shots left.
I suppose I could have taken more time for each shot, but I usually don't concentrate near as much on the basics as I did for this "testing".
All loads are mixed brass, 115gr Ranier Plated Round-nose@1.145", Alliant Power Pistol, 5.5/5.7/5.9grains, with 3 different primers (Rem 1.5/Winchester/Wolf) for each powder charge. I shot 10rds of each mix, 90rds total... warmed up with a few mags of WWB first though.
Here are a few of the targets... best group was about 3.25" with 5.5gr and Winchester SPP's. The Remington primers hit much harder than the Winchesters and the Wolf's were in between. The 5.9gr/Remington felt like a +P Corbon. I learned a lot... like how freaking obvious it is that I pull all my shots left.
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Are you firing all the rounds in a full magazine or is that a set number of rounds being fired per target?
When I am going for accuracy and slow firing, I tend to fire 5 or 10 round groups for consistency (and I like "round" numbers).
When I am going for accuracy and slow firing, I tend to fire 5 or 10 round groups for consistency (and I like "round" numbers).
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I fired 10rds of each type intially. Then after I'd done all 9 courses, I came back and fired 5 more, so you should see 15 rounds in each target. I've got a couple more targets that I couldn't fit in one pic, but no groups are as good as the 5.5/Win combo.
Last night I sat down with some snap caps and practiced dry-firing in the living room... think I learned a few things. First, I got very intimate with the trigger... and discovered it's pretty rough. I'm gonna do some homework on aftermarket parts... LOTS of room for improvement in there.
Last night I sat down with some snap caps and practiced dry-firing in the living room... think I learned a few things. First, I got very intimate with the trigger... and discovered it's pretty rough. I'm gonna do some homework on aftermarket parts... LOTS of room for improvement in there.
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Just some unsolicited advice here. When I pattern like this(left of POA) I go back to a little stronger support hand and concentrate on slow steady trigger pull to correct it.
It seems to happen after I have shot a few dozen rounds and get sloppy.
Just some unsolicited advice here. When I pattern like this(left of POA) I go back to a little stronger support hand and concentrate on slow steady trigger pull to correct it.
It seems to happen after I have shot a few dozen rounds and get sloppy.
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As a data point, I've sold 9,000 rounds (all I could get) of CCI Mini-Mag this month for $1981. Demand is still crazy but I can see it dying down a bit. Even though I am really wanting to take my 10/22 to the range I hope the prices stay up for a while longer. Just too much easy money to be made.
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As a data point, I've sold 9,000 rounds (all I could get) of CCI Mini-Mag this month for $1981. Demand is still crazy but I can see it dying down a bit. Even though I am really wanting to take my 10/22 to the range I hope the prices stay up for a while longer. Just too much easy money to be made.
Will things get back to normal is my concern :(
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Edit:
I tried to convince the friend who bought the 10K rounds to give them to me a few months ago so we could make some money on them. He kept telling me he wanted to keep them. A few days back he told me he reconsidered and would give me some to sell. I declined because at this point all the good money for the Winchester/Federal bricks from Walmart are gone. Not any real money to be made from them. I think that is a sure sign that we are getting close to the end of this. I sold 1000 rounds of Tula .223 (with free shipping) the other day. Shipping to the other side of the country cost too much and we only made $12 on the order. We probably would have made at least $100 six months ago even with the high UPS cost.
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Selling a couple hundred thousand rounds of 22lr over the past year may have been a good business to be in. I wouldn't know because that would probably have some tax consequences that I wouldn't want to mess with.
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