What Guns do you have?
#62
Back on topic, I currently own no guns , however my dad had a S&W .357 nickel (plated?) revolver. I want: a Beretta 92fs, SIG 229 in .40 S&W or .357 SIG caliber, a 1911, some sort of AR-15/M16 rifle or maybe an AK or SKS, and a Mossberg 500.
#64
stfu and gtfo you god damned fly eating koala humper, if you have nothing to contribute but a retarded spamming noob boob comment that has no value to anything out of ******* no where that is NOT the random thread, then just simply back out of thread for the love of all things that is cat.
-with love
On the other hand, yes we <3 guns as much as russians like... well... guns.
I have my reason for my weapons, I like to pelunk with the .22, and defend the homestead with the .40s&w, my girl has a cute little .380 beretta with a CCW in her purse.
#65
Nah man Im just stirring you guys, anything americans are stereotyped for (ie guns) is really easy to stir you about. Considering my no swear words or name calling 5 word post managed an aggressive 30 odd word response I think that proves it.
Relax, I live in the city now but used to have a 222, and a remington pump action.
Cheers,
'Koala humper'
Relax, I live in the city now but used to have a 222, and a remington pump action.
Cheers,
'Koala humper'
#66
#1 -- It's a "Beretta," not a "Baretta."
#2 -- I have no problem reconciling my Christian beliefs nor my pro-freedom stance with my gun ownership (on the contrary, in fact, they go hand in hand), but you are free to disagree. You are also free to not understand it. Fortunately, you only have the power to make that decision for yourself, and not for others.
#2 -- I have no problem reconciling my Christian beliefs nor my pro-freedom stance with my gun ownership (on the contrary, in fact, they go hand in hand), but you are free to disagree. You are also free to not understand it. Fortunately, you only have the power to make that decision for yourself, and not for others.
2. I wouldn't dream of changing the 2nd amendment. It's too late now anyway. All it would do is drive up prices. I can see the argument against 20+ round clips, but it's a losing battle really.
In fact I used to be the same as you, freedom and gun ownership go hand in hand ect. I am entering this debate now with a different outlook. I am today flying back to England after a three week tour of the southern US visiting family after 4 years living out of the country. It changes your perspective seeing how much more civilised life is when everyone does not have the option to kill you at any moment. looking at it as sort of an outsider now it all seems a bit childish and alot of chest thumping (not you personally).
But more power too you, I get it. Machine guns are cool. Owning them is fun. It's just long debates about what bullet will inflict the most damage to flesh that comes off a bit mental.
#67
1. I can't spell. Blame my U.S. Education.
2. I wouldn't dream of changing the 2nd amendment. It's too late now anyway. All it would do is drive up prices. I can see the argument against 20+ round clips, but it's a losing battle really.
In fact I used to be the same as you, freedom and gun ownership go hand in hand ect. I am entering this debate now with a different outlook. I am today flying back to England after a three week tour of the southern US visiting family after 4 years living out of the country. It changes your perspective seeing how much more civilised life is when everyone does not have the option to kill you at any moment. looking at it as sort of an outsider now it all seems a bit childish and alot of chest thumping (not you personally).
But more power too you, I get it. Machine guns are cool. Owning them is fun. It's just long debates about what bullet will inflict the most damage to flesh that comes off a bit mental.
2. I wouldn't dream of changing the 2nd amendment. It's too late now anyway. All it would do is drive up prices. I can see the argument against 20+ round clips, but it's a losing battle really.
In fact I used to be the same as you, freedom and gun ownership go hand in hand ect. I am entering this debate now with a different outlook. I am today flying back to England after a three week tour of the southern US visiting family after 4 years living out of the country. It changes your perspective seeing how much more civilised life is when everyone does not have the option to kill you at any moment. looking at it as sort of an outsider now it all seems a bit childish and alot of chest thumping (not you personally).
But more power too you, I get it. Machine guns are cool. Owning them is fun. It's just long debates about what bullet will inflict the most damage to flesh that comes off a bit mental.
Larger magazines to me just mean I have to reload less at the range. Nothing more. I enjoy shooting at targets, its a challenge and a skill to do well.
It's really more of an issue about the wrong people getting their hands on guns and the gun owners who don't take the responsibility serious. That is just an unfortunate problem that plagues the World.
#68
It seems we are both arguing the same side of the debate. I agree if you want to own people killing machines as a hobby, and are responsible in using them they are no more dangerous than chainsaws and nail guns. Its the others as they always say that are the problem.
Having now lived in a very restrictive society regarding gun ownership I think I prefer it. In the 4 years I have lived in England I have only heard about maybe a dozen shootings. In the two weeks I have spent here in New Orleans there have been that many.
It's therefore, to me, a better system in England as it just doesn't happen. On the other hand I am not a gun enthusiast, so it doesnt take anything away for me not to have one. And I will freely admit that the baseball bat I keep under the bed doesn't make me feel nearly as secure as the beretta did.
I hear in Switzerland, it is just about impossible to legally modify a car for road use. Any part you replace HAS to be an original factory part. That I could not deal with, while others would not be the least bit upset. (point of fact, my wife would w over the moon)
Having now lived in a very restrictive society regarding gun ownership I think I prefer it. In the 4 years I have lived in England I have only heard about maybe a dozen shootings. In the two weeks I have spent here in New Orleans there have been that many.
It's therefore, to me, a better system in England as it just doesn't happen. On the other hand I am not a gun enthusiast, so it doesnt take anything away for me not to have one. And I will freely admit that the baseball bat I keep under the bed doesn't make me feel nearly as secure as the beretta did.
I hear in Switzerland, it is just about impossible to legally modify a car for road use. Any part you replace HAS to be an original factory part. That I could not deal with, while others would not be the least bit upset. (point of fact, my wife would w over the moon)
#71
Well in this case it does. There are near enough no guns where I live. So the chances of me getting shot are about nil. Simple as that.
I would much rather have it out with an armed attacker wielding a knife. Added bonus here is that the English, as a rule, are pretty short people. So at over six foot I actually have the upper hand in a physical fight before it even starts.
I would much rather have it out with an armed attacker wielding a knife. Added bonus here is that the English, as a rule, are pretty short people. So at over six foot I actually have the upper hand in a physical fight before it even starts.
#72
Well in this case I'd does. There are near enough no guns where I live. So the chances of me getting shot are about nil. Simple as that.
I would much eater have it out with an armed attacker wielding a knife. Added bonus here is that the English, as a rule, are pretty short people. So at over six foot I actually have the upper hand in a physical fight before it even starts.
I would much eater have it out with an armed attacker wielding a knife. Added bonus here is that the English, as a rule, are pretty short people. So at over six foot I actually have the upper hand in a physical fight before it even starts.
<-- does not carry, lives in a state that doesn't allow it (one of the last) And not sure I'm ready to do so if provided the opportunity.
#73
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The argument could go both ways. No guns means no one using guns in crime. No guns also means no way to defend ones self from an attacker (armed or not). Guns means more guns used in crimes, means more crimes become deadly. Guns means I can defend myself/family/home from an attacker.
I own a gun, it stays in a safe place where I can access it in quickly.
I own a gun, it stays in a safe place where I can access it in quickly.
#74
Fair point. But there is a big difference between killing someone with your hands and doing it with a gun. When people get mugged in England they usually fight back, not really an option when a gun is pointed at you (even if you have one in your pocket). And they just about never die.
The giffords thing is a prime example. If he had a knife or a bat I am pretty sure he would not have got so far.
The giffords thing is a prime example. If he had a knife or a bat I am pretty sure he would not have got so far.
#75
Fair point. But there is a big difference between killing someone with your hands and doing it with a gun. When people get mugged in England they usually fight back, not really an option when a gun is pointed at you (even if you have one in your pocket). And they just about never die.
The giffords thing is a prime example. If he had a knife or a bat I am pretty sure he would not have got so far.
The giffords thing is a prime example. If he had a knife or a bat I am pretty sure he would not have got so far.
You can't stop crazy people from killing people. Sad truth.
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The more damage you can create with the first round, the better chance you have of stopping an attacker before they can accomplish their intentions.
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And yes, you can't modify your car in Switzerland. A friend visited a few weeks ago from Switzerland and they went to a vintage car cruise because he was nostalgic about cars they weren't allowed to have.