Talk me out of this Hyundai
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We did not test drive the sport package (SE?) version but those were creeping up on $30k with options.
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I don't know that Chip (can I call you Chip for short since I like to pronounce usernames phonetically?) would be as happy with an Optima. It's a great appliance car for the money for my wife and has lots of bells and whistles like air-conditioned front seats, but it has a zero "fun to drive quotient." We did test drive the turbo and the non-turbo and decided she could use the sat nav system more than the extra HP and TQ of the turbo engine (either upgrade was about $2.0 - 2.5k as I recall).
We did not test drive the sport package (SE?) version but those were creeping up on $30k with options.
We did not test drive the sport package (SE?) version but those were creeping up on $30k with options.
I need to go test drive the Optima. It is another option, though I love hatches and wagons.
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I am not sure how instructive it is to compare a 2011+ Sonata to a 2009 Sonata because they are such massive redesigns. It may hold relevant, but I wasn't so sure.
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Dude this thread is sucking.
For $25K you could buy so much awesome spiffy shiit.
My vote is C5 with hptuners and set that shiz up for happy highway 35mpg.
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If I were buying sport again, it'd be the LS swapped M3 in the pictures thread or a swapped FD.
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I have a friend who was shopping for a car from this category - he drove a Focus, a GTI, a C30, and a few other things, and he said the C30 was head and shoulders above everything else.
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it looks cool and is well built?
I only care about the v70r, s60r, and s40r.
that's like saying I like the supra TT and old *** AWD turbo celicas, and then you saying I'm obsessed with toyotas.
I absolutely hate vovlo interiors. they are comfortable as hell, but too "modern design" for my personal tastes. I hate the stupid extension radio panel thing...waste of space.
I only care about the v70r, s60r, and s40r.
that's like saying I like the supra TT and old *** AWD turbo celicas, and then you saying I'm obsessed with toyotas.
I absolutely hate vovlo interiors. they are comfortable as hell, but too "modern design" for my personal tastes. I hate the stupid extension radio panel thing...waste of space.
#37
I have no idea how and why some of you want to daily drive a small car. Get at least a mid-size; some place to stretch out and allow the possibility of fitting more than 2 people into it comfortably.
Myself personally, I can't stand my 3. Small, uncomfortable, noisy. The only reason I got it was because it was cheap. Next couple of months i'm getting myself into a full size.
Myself personally, I can't stand my 3. Small, uncomfortable, noisy. The only reason I got it was because it was cheap. Next couple of months i'm getting myself into a full size.
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I can never see myself getting a full size.
I DD a 2000 altima and I've maybe used the rear seats for passengers maybe 2-3 times in the last 7 years? One of those times included Hustler.
I'd prefer a smaller 2-dr car, but my wife already drives a prelude and we'll probably replace it with a g37x coupe or accord v6 coupe or geneis coupe or alike. So I don't want another small car in the stable. I grew up driving vans and station wagons and love a hatch and know how pracitcal they can be, so I'm looking at the MS3, WRX, and Focus ST. I'm pretty sure I'll end up with a Focus ST very shortly.
I DD a 2000 altima and I've maybe used the rear seats for passengers maybe 2-3 times in the last 7 years? One of those times included Hustler.
I'd prefer a smaller 2-dr car, but my wife already drives a prelude and we'll probably replace it with a g37x coupe or accord v6 coupe or geneis coupe or alike. So I don't want another small car in the stable. I grew up driving vans and station wagons and love a hatch and know how pracitcal they can be, so I'm looking at the MS3, WRX, and Focus ST. I'm pretty sure I'll end up with a Focus ST very shortly.
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I can never see myself getting a full size.
I DD a 2000 altima and I've maybe used the rear seats for passengers maybe 2-3 times in the last 7 years? One of those times included Hustler.
I'd prefer a smaller 2-dr car, but my wife already drives a prelude and we'll probably replace it with a g37x coupe or accord v6 coupe or geneis coupe or alike. So I don't want another small car in the stable. I grew up driving vans and station wagons and love a hatch and know how pracitcal they can be, so I'm looking at the MS3, WRX, and Focus ST. I'm pretty sure I'll end up with a Focus ST very shortly.
I DD a 2000 altima and I've maybe used the rear seats for passengers maybe 2-3 times in the last 7 years? One of those times included Hustler.
I'd prefer a smaller 2-dr car, but my wife already drives a prelude and we'll probably replace it with a g37x coupe or accord v6 coupe or geneis coupe or alike. So I don't want another small car in the stable. I grew up driving vans and station wagons and love a hatch and know how pracitcal they can be, so I'm looking at the MS3, WRX, and Focus ST. I'm pretty sure I'll end up with a Focus ST very shortly.
I don't consider myself a taxi cab either but the ride, space and refinement of a full size is undeniable. Ill lug around an extra 10 inches of wheel base, extra 2 seats and worse gas mileage for that.