La Policia & the driving record of me...
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Before we begin...I will say this: "If you get pulled over by the cops in Berks County Pennsylvania, it is most likely because you were breaking a law of some sort."
It all started when I was 16. I fixed up my 1971 Chevy Nova 3 months before my 16th birthday, so I could compete in coolness with the other semi rust bucket muscle in the high school parking lot.
By the time I turned 18, my Nova was long gone and I had a 1988 Trans Am GTA that I was tearing up the streets with. I also had lost my license for at least 90 days in the 2 years I had a license.
Fast forward to 21 years old. I have now lost my license I think at least 3 times for simply driving too fast and getting caught too many times for it. The points added up and another page was written.
It is now 2012 and I am 30 years old. My points are at 0, and as far as I know, my driving record is clean for the first time since I had a drivers license. I never had any DUI's, but I had a book of speeding tickets, a leaving the scene of an accident, wreckless driving, neglegence or some crap...basically I hit a deer and then hit a tree and I went home. The next day I reported it and the cops hammered me even though nobody else was around or involved, and my truck was totalled (even though I drove it anway).
Tonight I left work after a long night of BS. I went to a local bar with a friend who I've known since I was like 5. I drank a Southern Tier Creme Brulee, and a Philly IPA. Then I followed him to his house where we sat in his garage for like 2 hours and I sipped a 6oz glass of his home brew IPA.
I left his house and threw $12 of 92 octane in my car and grabbed 32oz of Mocha, which I slammed down. On the drive home I got to this area where the speed limit tapers down to 45mph, so I slowed to a 45. I saw the cop sitting out in the open waiting for his 2AM target. I passed him, and he never pulled out. A 1/2 mile ahead there was a red light. I stopped, and it turned green so I went. It's 2AM, there is no traffic on the road, and Rosco P. Coltrane is sitting over 1 mile behind me. I cracked it open until I hit 100mph, then I let off. I'm nearing another light and I see headlights behind me closing in fast. Is this a cop I'm thinking? What to do? I see the Wawa sign and think, "don't give him a reason...just casually pull in...maintain speed and don't cross the lines." Crown Vic is up my *** and following. I turn into Wawa, and Barney Fife continues straight.
I never got pulled over, nothing. Why did he fly up my *** and follow me? Did he hear me crack it open and savor the taste of high performance? I guess I'll never understand the reasoning of police tactics.
Was I DUI capable? No way...
Was I nervous? $hit yeah I was!
Was I listening to this song at that very moment?
You're F'n right I was!
It all started when I was 16. I fixed up my 1971 Chevy Nova 3 months before my 16th birthday, so I could compete in coolness with the other semi rust bucket muscle in the high school parking lot.
By the time I turned 18, my Nova was long gone and I had a 1988 Trans Am GTA that I was tearing up the streets with. I also had lost my license for at least 90 days in the 2 years I had a license.
Fast forward to 21 years old. I have now lost my license I think at least 3 times for simply driving too fast and getting caught too many times for it. The points added up and another page was written.
It is now 2012 and I am 30 years old. My points are at 0, and as far as I know, my driving record is clean for the first time since I had a drivers license. I never had any DUI's, but I had a book of speeding tickets, a leaving the scene of an accident, wreckless driving, neglegence or some crap...basically I hit a deer and then hit a tree and I went home. The next day I reported it and the cops hammered me even though nobody else was around or involved, and my truck was totalled (even though I drove it anway).
Tonight I left work after a long night of BS. I went to a local bar with a friend who I've known since I was like 5. I drank a Southern Tier Creme Brulee, and a Philly IPA. Then I followed him to his house where we sat in his garage for like 2 hours and I sipped a 6oz glass of his home brew IPA.
I left his house and threw $12 of 92 octane in my car and grabbed 32oz of Mocha, which I slammed down. On the drive home I got to this area where the speed limit tapers down to 45mph, so I slowed to a 45. I saw the cop sitting out in the open waiting for his 2AM target. I passed him, and he never pulled out. A 1/2 mile ahead there was a red light. I stopped, and it turned green so I went. It's 2AM, there is no traffic on the road, and Rosco P. Coltrane is sitting over 1 mile behind me. I cracked it open until I hit 100mph, then I let off. I'm nearing another light and I see headlights behind me closing in fast. Is this a cop I'm thinking? What to do? I see the Wawa sign and think, "don't give him a reason...just casually pull in...maintain speed and don't cross the lines." Crown Vic is up my *** and following. I turn into Wawa, and Barney Fife continues straight.
I never got pulled over, nothing. Why did he fly up my *** and follow me? Did he hear me crack it open and savor the taste of high performance? I guess I'll never understand the reasoning of police tactics.
Was I DUI capable? No way...
Was I nervous? $hit yeah I was!
Was I listening to this song at that very moment?
You're F'n right I was!
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Good driving music. ![big grin](https://www.miataturbo.net/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
Hadn't heard of Wawa before- had to Google it. Are the sandwiches there as good as they look on the website? (I ask because I've been to a couple of gas stations in Germany in which the deli-counter food was really staggeringly good. One even had a full-service buffet and soup/salad bar.)
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Hadn't heard of Wawa before- had to Google it. Are the sandwiches there as good as they look on the website? (I ask because I've been to a couple of gas stations in Germany in which the deli-counter food was really staggeringly good. One even had a full-service buffet and soup/salad bar.)
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He probably flew up your b-hole because he might have heard your car when you decided to open it up, or maybe be saw you but in either case he couldn't prove it, or didn't care and just wanted to ---- with you.
21 years old, no tickets, no warnings. I have gotten very lucky several times.
21 years old, no tickets, no warnings. I have gotten very lucky several times.
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I know exactly what you are talking about. My license is currently 0 points, but my personal best was getting pulled over in a Ford F250 doing 102mph. Cop had no idea what my speed was, but after he saw me in a Boy Scout uniform, he wrote me up for 62 in a 55
Out here on the left coast, the CHP does this as a pretty standard practice. They will FLY up your *** in the dark and brake at the last second to "pace" you. You know, while you are looking in the rear-view as what appears to be an intoxicated death machine approaching you from the rear at over 100mph? My standard practice is to brake, change lanes and pull over. They usually flash the lights and pull in behind me so I respond by popping on the hazards and shutting off the car. When asked why I pulled over (before they even started flashing lights mind you) I usually respond with "I thought you were death incarnate in a speeding drunk in a fullsize come to collect my soul and I didn't want to be hit in a 100mph rear collision. I felt it would be safer to pull over and let you pass and then call 911" Literally, I've said these words with cell phone in hand. It usually evokes laughter and an apology from the cop. After that, they usually don't even check my license/registration/insurance. My polite manner and receding hairline do count for something, but I guess it couldn't hurt to add some Hall & Oats to my bag of tricks.
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I'm nearing another light and I see headlights behind me closing in fast. Is this a cop I'm thinking? What to do? I see the Wawa sign and think, "don't give him a reason...just casually pull in...maintain speed and don't cross the lines." Crown Vic is up my *** and following. I turn into Wawa, and Barney Fife continues straight.
I never got pulled over, nothing. Why did he fly up my *** and follow me? Did he hear me crack it open and savor the taste of high performance? I guess I'll never understand the reasoning of police tactics.
I never got pulled over, nothing. Why did he fly up my *** and follow me? Did he hear me crack it open and savor the taste of high performance? I guess I'll never understand the reasoning of police tactics.
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Good driving music. ![big grin](https://www.miataturbo.net/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
Hadn't heard of Wawa before- had to Google it. Are the sandwiches there as good as they look on the website? (I ask because I've been to a couple of gas stations in Germany in which the deli-counter food was really staggeringly good. One even had a full-service buffet and soup/salad bar.)
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Hadn't heard of Wawa before- had to Google it. Are the sandwiches there as good as they look on the website? (I ask because I've been to a couple of gas stations in Germany in which the deli-counter food was really staggeringly good. One even had a full-service buffet and soup/salad bar.)
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I've had two speeding tickets, no points BECAUSE TRAFFIC SCHOOL.
Once I was pulled over going to an autocross years back. I had just stripped the car down. No dash, no passenger seat,etc.. I was radar'd by a motorcycle cop, pulled over and I was pretty much sodomized.
Long story, but it ended up with 4 tickets totaling around 1200 dollars, accused of stealing my own car and admitting that I was street racing (because officer cokc-sucker didn't know what an autocross was) and I was escorted home. Went to court and had all tickets thrown out. Let your imagination run wild.
Edit: Jesus *******, Thirdgen! You shouldn't even be allowed on the damn road!
Once I was pulled over going to an autocross years back. I had just stripped the car down. No dash, no passenger seat,etc.. I was radar'd by a motorcycle cop, pulled over and I was pretty much sodomized.
Long story, but it ended up with 4 tickets totaling around 1200 dollars, accused of stealing my own car and admitting that I was street racing (because officer cokc-sucker didn't know what an autocross was) and I was escorted home. Went to court and had all tickets thrown out. Let your imagination run wild.
Edit: Jesus *******, Thirdgen! You shouldn't even be allowed on the damn road!
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I prefer the "Uniting Nations" version of that song myself.
Personal opinion, he probably heard you but didn't think your car was capable of the sounds he observed and continued on. Believe me when I tell you this, a cop doesn't need to see anything to write you a ticket for that. Right after HS I helped a friend build an 86 S10 blazer w/400 small block and 200 shot. Giant carb, long tube open headers. First drive we turned off his street on to a fairly large 4 lane street and nailed it. Spun through first, second, and into third he shut it down hard on the brakes until we reached the 35mph speed limit coasting about 1.5 miles down the hill to our turn. Low and behold, sitting in an empty gas station parking lot was the local city fuzz who obviously heard what we did and pulled us over. Might I mention that you can be charged with a CRIME for lying to a police officer, but they can legally lie their efffing *** off to you just to extract information???????? Anyway, this guy claimed that he saw what we did, even went so far as to say he clocked us with LIDAR which was way beyond physically impossible. If he was holding the Hubble telescope it still wouldn't have been possible to see us!
He wrote up the driver for reckless driving, basic speed, non-dot tires, no turn signals, no side mirror, cracked windscreen, expired tags, and the both of us for no seat belt. Actually really surprised he didn't impound the truck looking back on it and the cop didn't like arguing with me about seat belts.
Bottom line, you got lucky.
Personal opinion, he probably heard you but didn't think your car was capable of the sounds he observed and continued on. Believe me when I tell you this, a cop doesn't need to see anything to write you a ticket for that. Right after HS I helped a friend build an 86 S10 blazer w/400 small block and 200 shot. Giant carb, long tube open headers. First drive we turned off his street on to a fairly large 4 lane street and nailed it. Spun through first, second, and into third he shut it down hard on the brakes until we reached the 35mph speed limit coasting about 1.5 miles down the hill to our turn. Low and behold, sitting in an empty gas station parking lot was the local city fuzz who obviously heard what we did and pulled us over. Might I mention that you can be charged with a CRIME for lying to a police officer, but they can legally lie their efffing *** off to you just to extract information???????? Anyway, this guy claimed that he saw what we did, even went so far as to say he clocked us with LIDAR which was way beyond physically impossible. If he was holding the Hubble telescope it still wouldn't have been possible to see us!
He wrote up the driver for reckless driving, basic speed, non-dot tires, no turn signals, no side mirror, cracked windscreen, expired tags, and the both of us for no seat belt. Actually really surprised he didn't impound the truck looking back on it and the cop didn't like arguing with me about seat belts.
Bottom line, you got lucky.
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Y'all wanna hear some bullsh*t? Here in Ohio an officer use to be able to issue a ticket if it SOUNDED like you where speeding. Fortunately such idiocracy got overturned.
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Y'all wanna hear some bullsh*t? Here in Ohio an officer use to be able to issue a ticket if it SOUNDED like you where speeding. Fortunately such idiocracy got overturned.
Couple months go by and it's time for court! When the persecution (no, thats not a typo) called the citing Officer to testify where once again he stated "it was loud" and "it looked like he was going fast." Then it was my friends turn to cross-examine the Officer where he presented all the photographs along with video documentation of the incident in which the officer claimed we 'displayed an exposition of power and acceleration to execute an illegal u-turn' showing it was physically impossible for such a thing to take place, basically pwn3d the **** out of the cop. The intersection where we did this had an 8' lane with huge curbs on each side, doing what the officer claimed we did would have resulted in a crash.
By the time he was done with his cross examination the prosecution dropped their case and it was dismissed.
tl;dr: Friend issued BS ticket for something he didn't do. Proved he couldn't have done it. Embarrassed the legal system and Judge dismissed case. Win for the little guy and self-representation.
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lol ive been pulled over so many times...
...I put my insurance in my wife's name.
1 wreckless driving, 80 in a 35, spun out, ruined all 4 wheels on sidewalk... couldnt flee the scene------ no record, fought in court due to road circumstances (dirty from construction), wetness due from sprinkler systems (lol), racial and age profiling since the first officer put me in cuffs and called me a "cholo" when he saw my last name on the license. Also, officers didnt see me commit the offence, just a 911 call from a citizen near by who saw me spin out reported an accident, they measured my skid marks to determine. Helps to have a spanish last name and a white irish mother who works for the court.
2 Exhibitions of speed- fell off record--- attended traffic school
3 average speeding violations- one from passing someone not going as fast as me, one from tuning my MSPNP in an apparently new school zone (------- charter school existing on my favorite desolate straight in the industrial), and one just for blatant speed just because. 2 of the 3 stuck to record, and 1 warning.
1 expired registration and lack of insurance (lol)- made me more aware of undercover cruisers that day, all I was doing was driving to the shop to an alignment. Officer took my plates but didnt issue a citation... I dont know how that works, but I didnt get charged for it.
Now my most favorite ticket of all time of which lost horribly in lassen county and all of CHP...
1 fix it ticket violation in combo with illegal non-CARB approved equipment on my NEVADA registered car- The CHP officer said that my car's exhaust is illegal and needs to be "fixed", also wanted to see the carb sticker on my car since the miata had "Miataturbo.net" and a "turbo" emblem on the rear, I had nothing to fear so I showed him my engine bay, he said it was illegal and so he is going to write me up for that too, I told him I passed smog, and nevada inspection in my state of residence, he didnt believe me, so I took that arrogant ***** to court and he lost miserably, I also won 50 dollars because I wanted to sue for 50 bucks to make an example of him. Sued him for "loss of wages" because he made me late to "work" for my family in westwood.
...I put my insurance in my wife's name.
1 wreckless driving, 80 in a 35, spun out, ruined all 4 wheels on sidewalk... couldnt flee the scene------ no record, fought in court due to road circumstances (dirty from construction), wetness due from sprinkler systems (lol), racial and age profiling since the first officer put me in cuffs and called me a "cholo" when he saw my last name on the license. Also, officers didnt see me commit the offence, just a 911 call from a citizen near by who saw me spin out reported an accident, they measured my skid marks to determine. Helps to have a spanish last name and a white irish mother who works for the court.
2 Exhibitions of speed- fell off record--- attended traffic school
3 average speeding violations- one from passing someone not going as fast as me, one from tuning my MSPNP in an apparently new school zone (------- charter school existing on my favorite desolate straight in the industrial), and one just for blatant speed just because. 2 of the 3 stuck to record, and 1 warning.
1 expired registration and lack of insurance (lol)- made me more aware of undercover cruisers that day, all I was doing was driving to the shop to an alignment. Officer took my plates but didnt issue a citation... I dont know how that works, but I didnt get charged for it.
Now my most favorite ticket of all time of which lost horribly in lassen county and all of CHP...
1 fix it ticket violation in combo with illegal non-CARB approved equipment on my NEVADA registered car- The CHP officer said that my car's exhaust is illegal and needs to be "fixed", also wanted to see the carb sticker on my car since the miata had "Miataturbo.net" and a "turbo" emblem on the rear, I had nothing to fear so I showed him my engine bay, he said it was illegal and so he is going to write me up for that too, I told him I passed smog, and nevada inspection in my state of residence, he didnt believe me, so I took that arrogant ***** to court and he lost miserably, I also won 50 dollars because I wanted to sue for 50 bucks to make an example of him. Sued him for "loss of wages" because he made me late to "work" for my family in westwood.
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got a citation in the mail for flipping a cop off at a high school football game (not saying i wouldnt do it, he was a huge *****) years ago in which i did not attend, i was at the hospital with my family. fought it in court, and the judge basically laughed in the cops face and i walked. would think that he wouldn't be such a ***** to me, but i was 17 at the time and he called my dad about a week later and accused me of calling him a ----- at another football game i was not at. so now the judge said if i get anything from him that there is no video proof of its getting thrown out. got out of 2 speeding tickets this way.
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1 fix it ticket violation in combo with illegal non-CARB approved equipment on my NEVADA registered car- The CHP officer said that my car's exhaust is illegal and needs to be "fixed", also wanted to see the carb sticker on my car since the miata had "Miataturbo.net" and a "turbo" emblem on the rear, I had nothing to fear so I showed him my engine bay, he said it was illegal and so he is going to write me up for that too, I told him I passed smog, and nevada inspection in my state of residence, he didnt believe me, so I took that arrogant ***** to court and he lost miserably, I also won 50 dollars because I wanted to sue for 50 bucks to make an example of him. Sued him for "loss of wages" because he made me late to "work" for my family in westwood.
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I've got more tickets than I can count in my 13 years of driving. Too many stories to list. Right now my record is clean and has been for years. It was when I was younger I got popped for little shit all of the time- minor speeding, too fast for conditions, improper lane changes, failure to yield, but mostly minor speeding tickets. I am not one to really say much when getting pulled over, I just go to court and work the solicitor. 95% of the time I get what I want (violation reduction).
My faorite was a "exhibition of speed/racing" ticket a county officer tried to stick me with because "he heard me accelerate through 3 gears" pulling out of my neighborhood. Went to trial on that one, made the officer look like a clown in front of the judge and found not guilty. That officer has given me 3 tickets since then (it's been 8 years) and the last time I got stopped in that county, the officer started on about one of his guys piping up when he called in my tag....and I said "let me guess, officer Lake said that?", "yeah" the officer said, to which I told him "that asshole needs to let things go, that was 7 years ago" while laughing.
My faorite was a "exhibition of speed/racing" ticket a county officer tried to stick me with because "he heard me accelerate through 3 gears" pulling out of my neighborhood. Went to trial on that one, made the officer look like a clown in front of the judge and found not guilty. That officer has given me 3 tickets since then (it's been 8 years) and the last time I got stopped in that county, the officer started on about one of his guys piping up when he called in my tag....and I said "let me guess, officer Lake said that?", "yeah" the officer said, to which I told him "that asshole needs to let things go, that was 7 years ago" while laughing.
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I've had the same cop fly up in the middle of the night. I was 18, left my temp job in a factory at 2AM and started a 45 min drive home. I passed through a small town where some of the guys at work lived so we stopped for 10 min at one guys house.
I left and pulled out, apparently a short distance, in front of some full size car 20 feet from a stop sign. Continuing out of town the car behind turned on his brights as we left town, 5-10 feet behind me and after a while started speeding closer, letting off and repeating.
I started to worry about the drunk behind me especially since I had received a talk about being wary of drivers like this from my dad that morning. We were going 90-100kph in an 80 zone for 10 min and buddy started being a bit more aggressive then the speed limit dropped to 60kph past just one farm house and he backed off completely. He drove normally for 5 minutes. Later as I go through a stop sign (after stopping), lights and sirens blaring he races up behind me so I pull to the side.
The officer starts yelling about racing and careless driving and how he can take my car and leave me there (how he would drive 2 cars?). I was very shaken and responded that I was intimidated by his driving and was trying to maintain a speed that would keep me away from him. Bad answer. He tells me I sped through a school zone (farmer complained and got 50ft either side of his drive made a school zone) and could've lost control etc, reckless driving, speeding 40kph over.
I hired a paralegal and it was reduced to $500 fine, no points.
Only ticket since was for speeding at 75kph (miata on a road that was 80kph and recently lowered to 60kph) while behind a brown saturn at a constant distance in the sight of the officer, on a sunny day. He told me I had a real nice car but I shouldn't drive so fast for the roads or I'm going to wreck it.
He also wrote up that I was driving an 09 mx5 with a different plate (vs the 97 in my sig which I was driving) but at the courthouse they were arguing that if the ticket has your name it's your responsibility regardless of anything else.
I left and pulled out, apparently a short distance, in front of some full size car 20 feet from a stop sign. Continuing out of town the car behind turned on his brights as we left town, 5-10 feet behind me and after a while started speeding closer, letting off and repeating.
I started to worry about the drunk behind me especially since I had received a talk about being wary of drivers like this from my dad that morning. We were going 90-100kph in an 80 zone for 10 min and buddy started being a bit more aggressive then the speed limit dropped to 60kph past just one farm house and he backed off completely. He drove normally for 5 minutes. Later as I go through a stop sign (after stopping), lights and sirens blaring he races up behind me so I pull to the side.
The officer starts yelling about racing and careless driving and how he can take my car and leave me there (how he would drive 2 cars?). I was very shaken and responded that I was intimidated by his driving and was trying to maintain a speed that would keep me away from him. Bad answer. He tells me I sped through a school zone (farmer complained and got 50ft either side of his drive made a school zone) and could've lost control etc, reckless driving, speeding 40kph over.
I hired a paralegal and it was reduced to $500 fine, no points.
Only ticket since was for speeding at 75kph (miata on a road that was 80kph and recently lowered to 60kph) while behind a brown saturn at a constant distance in the sight of the officer, on a sunny day. He told me I had a real nice car but I shouldn't drive so fast for the roads or I'm going to wreck it.
He also wrote up that I was driving an 09 mx5 with a different plate (vs the 97 in my sig which I was driving) but at the courthouse they were arguing that if the ticket has your name it's your responsibility regardless of anything else.