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bahurd 07-08-2016 02:37 PM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1344840)
How hard is installing a window AC unit. I am highly considering buying this AC unit and installing it in my garage. It being 100+ degrees out is really killing my wanting to work on cars. Also how long does it take to actually start cooling off the room its in.

Easy to install. I had better luck in a previous house with a ductless unit I installed in my garage. You have better choices of internal placement.

Not same but to illustrate: https://www.amazon.com/Amvent-Ductle.../dp/B0081HMXHC

You'd need to size for the space obviously.

Joe Perez 07-08-2016 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by bahurd (Post 1344845)
Easy to install. I had better luck in a previous house with a ductless unit I installed in my garage. You have better choices of internal placement.

Not same but to illustrate: https://www.amazon.com/Amvent-Ductle.../dp/B0081HMXHC

I was going to say the same thing- more efficient, and better choices for placement.

Note that while the unit linked to above comes pre-filled with refrigerant and uses quick-connect fittings, some come empty and require the use of a vacuum pump and then an R410 filling station after the lines are hooked up.

Girz0r 07-08-2016 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1344840)
How hard is installing a window AC unit.

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shuiend 07-08-2016 02:56 PM

The garage is about 750square feet which seems to be right between needing 14000btu and 18000btu. It has zero insulation though so I was figuring larger is probably better. The one at lowes just happens to be available today which is sort of why I was looking at it.

bahurd 07-08-2016 03:06 PM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1344852)
The garage is about 750square feet which seems to be right between needing 14000btu and 18000btu. It has zero insulation though so I was figuring larger is probably better. The one at lowes just happens to be available today which is sort of why I was looking at it.

I'd love to be your electric provider...

One of the problems with the window unit is it'll be near the floor where the ductless wall unit can be placed higher so you'll get better circulation (IMHO) i.e. cold air is heavier than hot. The fan grids tend to be variable (not sure on all).

But, in general, they are higher priced.

Tough call. Good luck.

shuiend 07-08-2016 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by bahurd (Post 1344856)
I'd love to be your electric provider...

One of the problems with the window unit is it'll be near the floor where the ductless wall unit can be placed higher so you'll get better circulation (IMHO) i.e. cold air is heavier than hot. The fan grids tend to be variable (not sure on all).

But, in general, they are higher priced.

Tough call. Good luck.

The electric co-op I am member of has some of the cheapest power in the state. So that is something I am not to worried about. I honestly don't plan on leaving the AC on all the time or anything. Mostly turn it on an hour or so before I go out into the garage and then shut it off at night. I just want to remove some humidity and cool it off some, not looking to actually keep the garage "cold" continuously. I have been working with just fans, but with the heat index being 110F out right now, fans are not really cutting it when I am out welding.

Girz0r 07-08-2016 03:41 PM


Originally Posted by Girz0r (Post 1344660)
Searched and nothing definite. Symptoms of high intake temps?

I only notice this mostly in the afternoon, near 100F temps outside driving home in semi stop and go traffic.

When I let off the gas pedal completely, usually AFR will shoot up to 22 for fuel cut and the car will decel like normal. Recently in the heat, when I let off there is no fuel cut. Runs rich (10-12 AFR), sputters.. RPMs slowly fall. If I release the clutch it still runs rich and the idle is at around 2k RPM.

IAT is right behind the radiator :cry:

So far, still looking for a solution...

A lot of examples I come across is with megasquirt, hot iat but running lean...

Just want to be sure before I start investigating on extending the wiring down towards the intercooler piping down below. Get it drilled/welded or whatever and take off the powder coat on the existing piping... Or use the IAT piece found on BEGi's site.

sixshooter 07-08-2016 03:56 PM

That window unit will improve your life. Do it. Low country has special requirements for managing Summer.

bahurd 07-08-2016 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by Girz0r (Post 1344847)

Make sure to study up! :rofl:


Originally Posted by sixshooter (Post 1344882)
That window unit will improve your life. Do it. Low country has special requirements for managing Summer.

True enough.

shuiend 07-08-2016 05:55 PM

I bought the biggest window unit that Lowes had. I should be hooking it up tonight or tomorrow once I get some one to help me. Now I am debating installing some insulation. Is it worth doing the sides and not the roof? I have zero desire to get into the rafters to attempt to put insulation up there.

good2go 07-08-2016 06:01 PM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1344916)
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Is it worth doing the sides and not the roof? I have zero desire to get into the rafters to attempt to put insulation up there.

NO, that would be a waste of time if you aren't doing the roof. You could do the roof alone and get a decent return on the effort, but not the walls alone.

Also, if there is any possible way for you to include a radiant barrier under the roof, you will be absolutely amazed at the temp differential.
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Reach-Bar...Q&gclsrc=aw.ds

Monk 07-08-2016 06:04 PM

I use ductless minisplits because my "house" is a 140 year old church, and it was the easiest way to retrofit AC. I just installed a second one yesterday.
Do it, but don't use the one linked. You want to find something with a high SEER.
110 units are available now with SEER numbers above 20, which is ultra efficient.
13 is below the energy star threshold.
My electricity bill does not significantly change when running it 24/7 when using AC, but it increases a bit when using the heat pump.
Have 2 extra sets of hands when you install.
Find an AC guy that is willing to work on a unit he didn't install to vacuum out the refrigerant lines before you release the Freon.
It shouldn't cost you more than ~$40

Girz0r 07-08-2016 07:51 PM


Originally Posted by Girz0r (Post 1344875)
So far, still looking for a solution...

A lot of examples I come across is with megasquirt, hot iat but running lean...

Just want to be sure before I start investigating on extending the wiring down towards the intercooler piping down below. Get it drilled/welded or whatever and take off the powder coat on the existing piping... Or use the IAT piece found on BEGi's site.

I took note of my IAT with a scanner when I got to a parking garage after work. 183F

Bad... yes?

Only near 100F outside...

Coolant is rock solid at 200F~ 12:00 on gauge.

Mobius 07-09-2016 03:00 AM


Originally Posted by good2go (Post 1344917)
NO, that would be a waste of time if you aren't doing the roof. You could do the roof alone and get a decent return on the effort, but not the walls alone.

Also, if there is any possible way for you to include a radiant barrier under the roof, you will be absolutely amazed at the temp differential.
Reach Barrier 4 ft. x 250 ft. Silvertanium Radiant Barrier Insulation-3023 - The Home Depot

Tell me more, tell me more. Our upper floor ceilings are insulated in the attic but the attic gets hottt in the summer; there's no insulation on the actual roof. Would I just nail this onto my rafters to create a radiant barrier beneath the roof?

Edit: ooh. yess. I am excite!

olderguy 07-09-2016 07:31 AM


Originally Posted by Mobius (Post 1344985)
Tell me more, tell me more. Our upper floor ceilings are insulated in the attic but the attic gets hottt in the summer; there's no insulation on the actual roof. Would I just nail this onto my rafters to create a radiant barrier beneath the roof?

Edit: ooh. yess. I am excite!

I would spend my time and money exhausting the area above the insulation. A good roof mounted exhaust fan and louvers at the base of the roof would do wonders.

triple88a 07-09-2016 11:52 AM

So today i decided to check out that exhaust leak..

A weld in the exhaust broke in the......


Are you ready?



The BEGI DOWNPIPE.

There is a joint where the pipe going down meets with the 2nd pipe that goes under the car. Right before the bend there appears to be press fit welded joint and it cracked all the way around.

shuiend 07-09-2016 12:45 PM


Originally Posted by triple88a (Post 1345004)
So today i decided to check out that exhaust leak..

A weld in the exhaust broke in the......


Are you ready?



The BEGI DOWNPIPE.

There is a joint where the pipe going down meets with the 2nd pipe that goes under the car. Right before the bend there appears to be press fit welded joint and it cracked all the way around.

How old is the downpipe? I mean I wouldn't exactly be mad at BEGI. Sometimes welds fail, there is not a vendor out there for miatas that I have not seen have zero issues ever with cracking welds. I have seen plenty of cracked turbo parts frm FM, Artech, Begi, Absurdflow over the years. It sucks when it happens, but you just take it to an exhaust shop and have them fix it them move on with your life. No miata turbo parts out there are sold at a price point to have perfect welds 100% of the time. You get enough out there with enough miles driven on them and eventually a few will have issues.

good2go 07-09-2016 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by Mobius (Post 1344985)
Tell me more, tell me more. Our upper floor ceilings are insulated in the attic but the attic gets hottt in the summer; there's no insulation on the actual roof. Would I just nail this onto my rafters to create a radiant barrier beneath the roof?

Edit: ooh. yess. I am excite!

Yes, exactly (well, staple it anyway), and it will do the same thing in winter too, preventing the heat from inside the house from escaping out through the roof. For years I saw the little demo kits on the counter at the lumber yard and thought this stuff was just snake oil, until they started requiring it in new construction here. Now, you can actually buy your roof sheathing ply with a foil skin already attached on one side, so there is no extra effort to accomplish the barrier than just sheathing the roof. Even in the summers here, when it is 90*+ outside, you can go into the attic and survive just fine, whereas before, you'd literally be on borrowed time up there. It will cut down on heating costs in winter too. If you have any reasonable access to the underside of your roof, I wouldn't hesitate to do it; creating a radiant barrier is the bomb.

https://www.radiantguard.com/pages/h...adiant-barrier

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Originally Posted by olderguy (Post 1344989)
I would spend my time and money exhausting the area above the insulation. A good roof mounted exhaust fan and louvers at the base of the roof would do wonders.

Even better to do both, but if I had to choose, I'd still do the barrier first. Keeping the heat from building up in the first place negates the whole need for exhausting it.

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Joe Perez 07-09-2016 01:52 PM

How is compare?

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triple88a 07-09-2016 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1345013)
How old is the downpipe? I mean I wouldn't exactly be mad at BEGI. Sometimes welds fail, there is not a vendor out there for miatas that I have not seen have zero issues ever with cracking welds. I have seen plenty of cracked turbo parts frm FM, Artech, Begi, Absurdflow over the years. It sucks when it happens, but you just take it to an exhaust shop and have them fix it them move on with your life. No miata turbo parts out there are sold at a price point to have perfect welds 100% of the time. You get enough out there with enough miles driven on them and eventually a few will have issues.

5 years now. And yes i would expect begis downpipe to last longer than the primo special mexican exhaust shop exhaust seeing that the entire exhaust is half the price of begis downpipe.


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