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Sam TII 08-13-2010 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by leatherface24 (Post 615843)
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The sheriff in capris and sandals is epic.

E-NA6CE 08-13-2010 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by gospeed81 (Post 616305)
I didn't know that much awesome could be approved by the FCC.

That was back when good TV was fuckin' good. Not this bullshit they air nowadays. Like, WTF? MacGyver was a genious. Too bad none of his shit works in real life, ha ha.

levnubhin 08-13-2010 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by E-NA6CE (Post 616269)
I've always wondered about those commercials. So how long do you have to workout exactly? As in number of months. Some of those guys go from being 250 with the muscle mass of someone who is 120 to a lean 190 by working out for just 20 minutes a day, three times a week. I call bullshit.

Those commercials are such BS. You can already tell that those dudes were already in great shape. All they did was fatten up a little bit and then lose it. Your body has an amazing memory. If you're really lean and then you pack on a few pounds, your body can shed that weight on no time.


5'8 180lbs about 14% body fat and dropping. Was over 20% body fat at 208lbs less than a year ago.
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fooger03 08-13-2010 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by levnubhin (Post 616317)
Those commercials are such BS. You can already tell that those dudes were already in great shape. All they did was fatten up a little bit and then loose it. Your body has an amazing memory. If you're really lean and then you pack on a few pounds, your body can shed that weight on no time.


5'8 180lbs about 14% body fat and dropping. Was over 20% body fat at 208lbs less than a year ago.

Been working out since november-ish. Mostly anaerobic stuff. Probably 3 days a week on average for about 45-50 minutes. I've lost about 4 lbs total in that time, but my body mass index/body fat percentage has improved tremendously. I stopped taking 4 cans of Mt. Dew to work around December, and started taking 4 bottles of water instead. In the last 2 months or so, I've been forcing myself to eat much better - A year ago, I wouldn't touch a salad, I've hated veggies all my life. Within about the last month I've started to eat them quite a bit more. Breakfast is a casein protein shake. Lunch is quite often a wendy's junior cheeseburger, ketchup only + a garden side salad w/ranch + a small fanta. Dinner is a good solid meal, though I try hard to make sure that I never eat more than necessary to fill up my belly. I'm of the opinion that Americans are generally overweight because of the "clean your plate" mentality that has been engrained in us all since children. When I first started to change my diet, I made no change to "what" I ate, instead, I always made it a point to leave something on my plate, even if it was a single bite of food. I also immediately refuse to eat anymore when someone says "hey, have another piece of...." I find the best practice is to put what I want to eat on my plate, eat most of it, and before I'm finished, immediately put my plate in the sink. When I'm done I generally feel pretty satisfied with every meal. I'm just now starting to be able to stand up relaxed and see the tinyest bit of definition in my abs. I think I'm going to have to do aerobic shit to tear it down to 'ripped' status. I hate aerobic shit.

Edit: O I 4 GOT - Apparently the ladies think I look better too - had my first O.N.S. in awhile last Saturday

levnubhin 08-13-2010 11:17 AM

It takes a lot of discipline to eat correctly. I remember the days when I would have a large muffin and a yoohoo for breakfast. I'd eat crap fast food lunch and then over eat at dinner. Those days are behind me and I do not miss them. I watch what I eat, I count my calories, fat, carbs and protein. Calories is right around 2,000 (which I need to increase). Fat is VERY low, maybe like 30-60 grams, Most of it is from fish or almonds. carbs is under 100 for the day and my protein is always well above 200 grams.
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fooger03 08-13-2010 11:21 AM

Counting shit is work. I remember counting carbs when I was in college. I spent like a month doing it. I would figure out what I wanted to eat, look at the carbs in it, and eat it. The number of carbs never changed if or how much of it I ate, I just knew how much I was eating.

I think it's worth noting that I do enjoy almost everything I eat. I haven't had to resort to eating useless crap like celery, nor would I consider it. I had BW3s for lunch yesterday, and a Salmon Patty with french fries for dinner. I simply refuse to overindulge. The nice thing about a small salad is that it takes a long time to eat (compared to a cheezburger) so by the time you're done, your stomach is telling your brain "hey, I don't need a whole lot more"

E-NA6CE 08-13-2010 11:21 AM

Ha ha, O.N.S. I must live in a slutty city because they are far too frequent. But for real, healthy eating will benefit you the most if you're looking to get into shape.

levnubhin 08-13-2010 11:24 AM


Originally Posted by fooger03 (Post 616327)
Counting shit is work. I remember counting carbs when I was in college. I spent like a month doing it. I would figure out what I wanted to eat, look at the carbs in it, and eat it. The number of carbs never changed if or how much of it I ate, I just knew how much I was eating.

Once you figure out it's easy. I eat the same things every day mon-fri except for dinner. Sat and Sundays I change it up a bit if I am less active.
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ZX-Tex 08-13-2010 11:24 AM


Originally Posted by FRT_Fun (Post 615689)

Awesome...

"But when Kenny G decided that it was appropriate for him to defile the music of the man who is probably the greatest jazz musician that has ever lived by spewing his lame-ass, jive, pseudo bluesy, out-of-tune, noodling, wimped out, fucked up playing all over one of the great Louis's tracks (even one of his lesser ones), he did something that I would not have imagined possible. He, in one move, through his unbelievably pretentious and calloused musical decision to embark on this most cynical of musical paths, shit all over the graves of all the musicians past and present who have risked their lives by going out there on the road for years and years developing their own music inspired by the standards of grace that Louis Armstrong brought to every single note he played over an amazing lifetime as a musician. "

Come on Pat, tell us how you really feel...:laugh:

That interview is so callous that I googled to see if it was a fake but so far I have not found any evident that it is. Regardless, Pat Metheny is a great musician (his popular stuff with Mays is great, and his hardcore jazz stuff is fantastic) and I completely agree with that article whether it is fake or not.

mgeoffriau 08-13-2010 11:31 AM

I'm pretty sure it's genuine. It's been out for a long time, and Metheny has never tried to distance himself from it.

Still Life Talking is an amazing album.

fooger03 08-13-2010 11:45 AM

He goes on about how KG isn't really a JAZZ musician because his playing style isn't what people would normally consider jazz. KG is different, so KG is a bad musician....

In the history of music, the musicians whose music stands the test of time are the ones that aren't afraid to be radically different. 80's pop music is still amazingly popular today because it was such a huge departure from the music that came before it. (I personally hate 80's music, but I won't deny its place as one of the best decades)

This thread makes me want to turn on some rapper's delight / first gen hip-hop.

levnubhin 08-13-2010 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by fooger03 (Post 616333)
This thread makes me want to turn on some rapper's delight.



Ha, you just made me turn it on.
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mgeoffriau 08-13-2010 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by fooger03 (Post 616333)
He goes on about how KG isn't really a JAZZ musician because his playing style isn't what people would normally consider jazz. KG is different, so KG is a bad musician....

I don't read it that way at all -- he's pretty clear that by anyone's measure, what Kenny G is attempting should be classified as jazz. It's just that he's doing a really shitty job of it, and stomped on the memory of Louis Armstrong by recording his own noodlings over a Louis Armstrong song.

fooger03 08-13-2010 11:59 AM

It might not have been a fantastic recording on KGs part, but what would Louis think? 60 years later, and 40 years after his death, his music is still being used as a reference by a well known musician. It's not a knock on Louis, but rather an amazing compliment. Even if KGs version is shit, I think Louis would be absolutely thrilled.

mgeoffriau 08-13-2010 12:03 PM

Would Leonardo Da Vinci be thrilled if I drew devil horns and a Groucho Marx moustache on the Mona Lisa?

Joe Perez 08-13-2010 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by lordrigamus (Post 616175)
You never know, they might check.

Well, turns out that it is the honor system, or rather, the "proof-of-payment system."
Proof-of-payment or POP is an honor-based fare collection approach used on many public transportation systems. Instead of checking each passenger as they enter a fare control zone, proof-of-payment requires that each passenger carry a ticket or pass proving that they have paid the fare. Ticket controllers or conductors make periodic checks to deter fare evasion.

On many systems, a passenger can purchase a single-use ticket or multi-use pass at any time in advance, but must insert the ticket or pass into a validation machine before use. Validation machines in stations or on board vehicles time stamp the ticket. The ticket is then valid for some period of time after the stamped time.

Advantages of proof-of-payment include lower labor costs for fare collection, simpler station design, easier access for mobility-impaired passengers, easier access for those carrying packages or in case of an emergency, and a more open feel for passengers. On buses, proof-of-payment saves drivers the time needed to collect fares, and makes it possible for all doors to be used for boarding. Validated tickets can double as transfers between lines.

Disadvantages include potentially higher rate of fare evasion, reduced security on station platforms when no barrier is used, increased potential of racial profiling and other unequal enforcement as "likely fare evaders" are targeted, and regularly exposing passengers to unpleasant confrontational situations when a rider without the proper proof is detained and removed from the vehicle. Visitors unfamiliar with a system's validation requirements who innocently misunderstand the rules are especially likely to get into trouble.

The proof-of-payment method is implemented when the transit authority believes it will lose less money to the resultant fare evasion than it would cost to install and maintain a more direct collection method. Generally it is used in systems whose passenger volume and density are not very high most of the time—as passenger volumes increase, more-direct collection methods become more profitable. POP can be complemented with a more direct collection approach where this would be feasible—a transit authority utilizing POP will usually post fare inspectors, sometimes armed as a police force, to man entrances to stations on a discretionary basis when a high volume of passengers is be expected. For example, transit users leaving a stadium immediately following a major concert or sporting event will likely have to buy a ticket from an attendant (or show proof of payment) to gain access to the station(s) servicing the stadium.

Proof-of-payment is popular in Germany, where it was widely introduced during the labor shortages resulting from the Economic Miracle of the 1960s. It has also been adopted in Eastern Europe and Canada and has made some inroads in newer systems in the United States. The first use of the term "POP" or "Proof of Payment" on a rail line in North America is believed to have been in Edmonton in 1980.

Some urban mass-transit systems in the United States have gone the other way, however, and are installing fare barriers that are harder to evade. One example is the Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority, which in 2006 installed subway fare gates with automatic doors instead of a traditional turnstile, making it harder to jump over or duck under the mechanism. However they are enacting a quasi-proof-of-payment system for the surface light-rail service. Riders paying with cash must pay at the front door and will be issued a receipt as POP. Holders of prepaid fare media will be able to validate their tickets beforehand at some stations and have a receipt issued. At other stations, personnel with handheld scanners will deduct value from cards or check for passes, allowing these riders to board at the unattended doors. If no inspectors are on duty those with stored value media are expected to use the farebox on board while those with passes can board at the unattended doors.
I didn't see a "validation machine" anywhere.

thirdgen 08-13-2010 01:29 PM

I put 3 peppermint altoids in my mouth. Once they disolved, I then put in a pinch of Copenhagen Natural Extra Long Cut. My taste buds exploded with delight, and it was better than any flavored tobacco I have ever chewed. The strong peppermint altoid accented this smooth tobacco in a way that I cannot describe. It was pure Nirvana. I strongly suggest indulging in this method.

Doppelgänger 08-13-2010 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by fooger03 (Post 616263)
I <3 my job. They pay me to work out for up to an hour every day. I'm going to do a commercial, in the spirit of bowflex:

"I'm 26, and I'm in the best shape of my life!"

6'2" @ 188

I guess that's not a huge statement though...

I've had jobs in the warehouse industry, where I worked my ass of unloading and moving shit by hand for 8+hrs a day. Loved it. Damn I was in shape then. I tried picking up that UPS Loadre job a couple of months ago partly because I wanted the workout for 3-4hrs a day. But they never called back. Now I'm on the hunt for a good mtn bike so I can get my ass out of the house when I get off of work.

Speaking of food though. I feel that everything that is not cooked fresh is bad. But the problem with good fresh food is it's expensive and I *can* eat a lot. Anything that has bee processed and packaged is "meh" at best. So my conculsion is that only people willing to spend the money and time on fresh food can be the most healthy and not worry about eating junk evey now and then. Notice you never see huge fatties that are rich? (except Oprah). So rather than change my eating habits, I'm changing how I burn off the food I eat. Like just now I used the stairs to hike my ass back up 10 floors..skipping stairs to increase the load on my legs and range of movement...and promptly sat down to eat 1.2 a grilled chicken wrap and a large chocolate muffin :rofl:

Doppelgänger 08-13-2010 01:36 PM

On a side note.

Does anyone else find those "Blue Collay Comedy Tour" fuckers annoying as fuck? My God do I feel insulted when they open their mouths. I had one of my TVs at work on Com. Cent. while I was watching Daily Show/Colbert and this shit came on afterwords. I didn't feel like finding something else to put on that TV and left it on. I could only take about 5 minuts of that shit as background noise before I had to turn it off. Shit is sooooo lame..how do people find that shit funny?

"My grandms once got arrested at Bass Pro Shops because they accused her of stealing a duck call and some Deer Bomb when all she had eaten a burrito and walking around the womans bathroom" (or some shit like that)

People really find that shit funny?

E-NA6CE 08-13-2010 01:38 PM

Something tells me one would be hearing very hard breathing if you ran up 10 flights of stairs and skipped a step each time. Either that or you're playing with the chance of mis-stepping and falling all the way down.


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