Originally Posted by Joe Perez
(Post 1475874)
I keep trying to figure out what kind of grinder you'd need to really precisely put a flat, smooth finish onto one. Like a head / block surfacer, but able to reach down into the pan.
I prefer the rougher surface and think it does a better job of putting a "crust" on my meats. |
Book was for research purposes only, plus yeah, not like I'm going to get HIV from handling a library book and since I'm not cooking for folks with compromised immune systems, zero fuck are really given.
I agree about the finish on the Lodge these days, safe to say it helps keep their prices down. This particular dutch over combo will primarily be used for baking bread in, as I've got a 5.5qt enameled Tramontina available for regular use. Oh, an no fancy pans here, either. Swinging blades and playing with fire in professional kitchens put an end to logo-envy for kitchen things, long long ago. I still invest in good quality steel for my knives, but other than that, functional all the way. https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...8d04300549.jpg And, here are the two 10oz balls of pizza dough right before going back into the fridge for another 36 to 60 hours to proof. 80% hydration, 3% salt, 2% yeast. 100% organic bread flour from the local HEB. Not quite as tasty as the Bob's Red Mill but much better than the King Arthur stuff. Eventually I'll break down and order up some flour from Central Milling or even the Caputo, when I'm feeling really flush. For now, got a Japanese steel bread knife, proofing basket, and bench scraper headed this way from Amazon. Then it'll be time to start making some sourdough starters and let the real magic happen. |
^ I'm jealous because I suck at anything that needs rising.
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Originally Posted by SchmoozerJoe
(Post 1475963)
Then it'll be time to start making some sourdough starters and let the real magic happen.
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Joe, I'll definitely share my trials with you, as it's finally time for me to bite the bullet and put my big boy pants on with live starters and what-not.
Today's pizza turned out pretty well. I incorporate a few new techniques, including a true 30 minute autolyse, rather than the usual mix and rest method I usually use. This dough was 80% hydration and today's bake was with about a two and a half day rest in the fridge. Tasty, but not fully developed yet flavor wise. I find that this particular dough hits the peak of flavor on day 3 and 4 before the yeasts develop too much alcohol in the doughs. Either way, much better results for this shorter than usual proofing period. Also, rather then make larger, thinner pizzas, I left them smaller with a larger cornicione on them, like they do at Pizza Mozza in Los Angeles. Personally I feel they do this to reduce the costs on the toppings, but perhaps it truly is to showcase the dough. Either way, for an electric oven that maxes out at 500F, the results weren't nearly as bad as I though they might be. In fact, while it's hard to tell in the photos, there was light shining through the cornicione while it was baking, a definite first for me! I do miss my old gas over with broiler drawer that I had in my apartment in West Hollywood years ago. 45 minutes on broil and I could get the oven compartment to register about 650 to 660F, leading to much better bakes. I may look into ways to boost the oven temps on this one here, though this particular oven doesn't have a self-clearing cycle on it so I'm not sure just how "hot" it will get before things start to melt. And, without further adieu, here are some pics of today's pizza. https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...db490a0b1.jpeg https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...6c299c8d9.jpeg https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...784f1ac81.jpeg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...36366455b.jpeg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...99d826d2ef.jpg https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...d2466bdf63.jpg https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...55a38af5d7.jpg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...0c2bfa0c97.jpg https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...c148581fef.jpg |
Originally Posted by bahurd
(Post 1475981)
^ I'm jealous because I suck at anything that needs rising.
1) Use fresh yeast. 2) Use bottled water. I've always had great luck with Crystal Geyser/Trader Joes/CG Roxanne. Chlorine kills yeast faster than almost anything except possible salt. Bottle water keeps the yeast happy and active. 3) Measure your water temps. Usually 90F to 95F is a great temp to use when making your dough. Pour what you need into a measure cup, then add boiling water until you hit your desired temps. Oh, and the big pro-tip for baking that I can share is to weight your ingredients. Measuring cups are for noobs. Scale things for both ease, precision, and consistency. No reason anyone should fear, hate, or despise yeasted doughs. Which reminds me, it's been ages since I've made my yeasted waffle batter... I may need to do something about that, soon! |
Originally Posted by SchmoozerJoe
(Post 1476026)
And, without further adieu, here are some pics of today's pizza.
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We've got a sourdough starter in the fridge we have nurtured for a few months. We've made several loaves from it. Tastes much better than store bought "sourdough", which is made differently. Easy to keep and use. Only have to feed it once a week.
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Originally Posted by sixshooter
(Post 1476077)
Tastes much better than store bought "sourdough", which is made differently.
I only recently came upon a certain brand of "California Sourdough" (made in Illinois) which is sold at Jewel-Osco stores here. It boasts of containing no yeast, and curiosity about this claim is what sent me down the path of discovering the magic of sourdough. And yea, it's readily apparent. Huge difference in texture and taste. |
Bread is one thing that I'm afraid to touch. I've made loafs in the oven before, but i'm a total noob and it comes out just OK, not great. Now my mom is a total wizard with dough - just today she did these traditional Eastern European Easter Breads that are like Italian Panettones. Sooooo good.
Our friends have a bread maker and make loafs at home all the time - comes out very good, but of course don't get that crust that you get from the oven. |
Shrimp & Sausage over Polenta
Serves 4-6
Sauce: 1-1/2lb large peeled raw shrimp 1 cup diced onion 1/2 thinly sliced fennel bulb 1lb hot italian sausage (bulk) 3 cloves garlic 1/2 tsp chopped rosemary 1/2 tsp chopped thyme 1 15oz can tomatoe puree 1 15oz can diced tomatoes or 5-7 diced roma tomatoes, fresh 1/2 cup crème fraîche (or sour cream if you must...) 2 tbsp chopped parsley Polenta (Instant pot method because it's easy to do while the sauce is cooking) 1 cup polenta 3 tbsp butter 4 cups chicken broth 1/4 cup cream cheese 1/2 cup cheddar cheese Whisk in chicken broth and polenta into instant pot Turn on saute function until just starting to boil Cover instant pot, close pressure vent and turn on pressure function at high pressure for 7-8 minutes When timer goes off, let pressure release naturally (10-12 minutes) Release vent and open cover You'll have some liquid on the top, just use your whisk to combine them and add the cream cheese, cheddar cheese and butter while whisking. Salt and pepper too taste Let sit while you finish the sauce Sauce prep Spread shrimp out on paper and salt and pepper lightly Put 2-3 tbsp olive oil In a large frying pan. When oil is hot, add a layer of shrimp and brown for 1 minute. Turn shrimp and cook for another 30 seconds. Remove to a plate and continue until all shrimp are slightly undercooked. Add onion and fennel to the pan and cook for 5 minutes and add the garlic. Cook another 1-2 minutes. Add sausage meat and cook. Crumble the sausage while cooking into large 1/2-3/4" chucks and add rosemary and thyme during the last 2 minutes. Cook until browned. Add wine to descale the pan scraping up any sausage bits and let boil for a minute. Add tomato puree + diced tomatoes and simmer for 2-3 minutes. Stir in crème fraîche and simmer for 1 minute while stirring. Add cooked shrimp and stir for about 2 minutes while shrimp finish cooking and sauce has thickened slightly. To serve, mound polenta on a plate and spoon sauce mixture around it. Top with chopped parsley. https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...e89b0a44c3.jpg This dish looks and tastes like it takes a long time to make but in reality it can be made in a 1/2 hr if you cook the polenta in an instant pot so you can do the sauce at the same time. The addition of crème fraîche gives it a really rich taste. I bastardized a NY Times recipe here: Shrimp With Hot Fennel Sausage and Polenta because I prefer my polenta more along the lines of southern cheesy grits. |
^ Well, I know what I'm making later in the week.
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
(Post 1475874)
I keep trying to figure out what kind of grinder you'd need to really precisely put a flat, smooth finish onto one. Like a head / block surfacer, but able to reach down into the pan.
just remove the texture. You can have non-planer food and it will be just fine. I'd suggest something akin to what a body shop would use prior to sanding blocks. Flap wheels, bristle disks, etc. would be ok. Or some 80 grt and elbow grease*. * replace elbow grease with suitable iron-seasoning grease prior to putting pan into food service. |
Originally Posted by Joe Perez
(Post 1476214)
^ Well, I know what I'm making later in the week.
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80 grit and a DA sander will do jus fine.
:spits: Jus be sure to season it back when yer finished. |
I guess I was thinking more about how to achieve a flat (if not necessarily square) surface. DA sanders and angle grinders just seem so... primitive.
Also, shit. Now I want to go to Mumbai just to have a vada pav. https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...2eb0ef4f02.png |
last night, three mt.net moderators had really good food and drink. no pictures were taking of this exclusive meet-up.
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Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 1476766)
last night, three mt.net moderators had really good food and drink. no pictures were taking of this exclusive meet-up.
If not, why? https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...e06df0f94.jpeg |
Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 1476766)
last night, three mt.net moderators had really good food and drink. no pictures were taking of this exclusive meet-up.
...you had sex and ate pizza? |
"What's the matter, you don't like pizza?"
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