Annual fun DD recommendation thread
#81
Serious about the electric super. Its a 5kw brushless electric motor connected to a centripital (centrifugal? Whatever, you know what I mean) compressor. 1.3PR max, up to 400cfm or so at 1.2PR. Not a ton, but cool.
If my miata was street only and I only needed bost for short bits and then could let the 24v battery pack recharge (they hold enough for 60-90sec of contonuous boost) I would be playing with one.
If my miata was street only and I only needed bost for short bits and then could let the 24v battery pack recharge (they hold enough for 60-90sec of contonuous boost) I would be playing with one.
#85
You're carrying around all that extra weight and inlet restriction all the time, for 2-3psi worth of boost, and a really mediocre power bump for a limited time, from time to time. Maybe in the future they will keep revising/improving that setup to make it cool, but so far I just don't see it.
#86
Turns out, those claims about quick/fast, nimble, fun, well... no. The lady asks me "it's pretty fast isn't it?" meanwhile, I just got out of my Evo. "No, no it's not.".
Still a great commuter car though IMO.
#87
You're carrying around all that extra weight and inlet restriction all the time, for 2-3psi worth of boost, and a really mediocre power bump for a limited time, from time to time. Maybe in the future they will keep revising/improving that setup to make it cool, but so far I just don't see it.
#88
It needs to power up at least partially just to spin just to not cause a restriction under normal vacuum driving. And then it needs to recover after getting drained, taxing the car's electrical system.
I dunno, I just don't see the appeal here. I'm open to being proven wrong tho.
How much are they? I didn't see prices listed. It better be under 1k
I dunno, I just don't see the appeal here. I'm open to being proven wrong tho.
How much are they? I didn't see prices listed. It better be under 1k
#89
It needs to power up at least partially just to spin just to not cause a restriction under normal vacuum driving. And then it needs to recover after getting drained, taxing the car's electrical system.
I dunno, I just don't see the appeal here. I'm open to being proven wrong tho.
How much are they? I didn't see prices listed. It better be under 1k
I dunno, I just don't see the appeal here. I'm open to being proven wrong tho.
How much are they? I didn't see prices listed. It better be under 1k
90s of boost is a long time to be at or near WOT, and it is just two 18ah batteries for the dump pack. So not any worse than charging your regular battery. They say about 8sec of charging for 1sec of boost (wish they would give charging and useage currents).
Also, for normal vavcume driving, I don't see why some restriction is an issue? Your throttle plate is a bigger restriction than it is going to be.
#90
Sorry to come into this late, but people post all the time how the Golf R is "down on power", but with a tune... the DSG's are high 11 second cars it seems.
That said, I had a '15 MK7 GTI (manual) and ditched it after 7 months, thankfully I got out clean. My GTI had epic electrical, mechanical gremlins they never could fix. The fit and finish of my GTI was pure *** as well. I bought the car on a whim during dieselgate because I got it cheap. At least the R is made in the EU still, or it was when I got my GTI. I had a JB1 on my MK7, and while not aggressive as a tune, I could have it removed in 5 minutes with no tools should I have to visit a dealer. Which was, unfortunately, a common occurrence. In hindsight, I think I would have bought an R and I'd likely still have it.
VW/Audi Is very.. very... good at catching people with tunes.
Now I DD a Nissan LEAF I lease for $129/month because I get free charging at work, and I've pretty much given up on the whole "fun DD" ****. I actually have come to really enjoy daily driving an EV. I have done ******* nothing to this car except rotate the tires. Nissan is paying me to drive it basically at this price.
That said, I had a '15 MK7 GTI (manual) and ditched it after 7 months, thankfully I got out clean. My GTI had epic electrical, mechanical gremlins they never could fix. The fit and finish of my GTI was pure *** as well. I bought the car on a whim during dieselgate because I got it cheap. At least the R is made in the EU still, or it was when I got my GTI. I had a JB1 on my MK7, and while not aggressive as a tune, I could have it removed in 5 minutes with no tools should I have to visit a dealer. Which was, unfortunately, a common occurrence. In hindsight, I think I would have bought an R and I'd likely still have it.
VW/Audi Is very.. very... good at catching people with tunes.
Now I DD a Nissan LEAF I lease for $129/month because I get free charging at work, and I've pretty much given up on the whole "fun DD" ****. I actually have come to really enjoy daily driving an EV. I have done ******* nothing to this car except rotate the tires. Nissan is paying me to drive it basically at this price.
#91
Overall mine has been pretty reliable. I blew a speaker that I need to get fixed, and the ECU died on it one day and took out four coil packs with it. Other than that it's been pretty good. Car is a '14 so a touch over 3 years old, and 28K miles so far.
#93
It's interesting to see how people who own expensive vehicles like that will tolerate failures like that. Tesla's are the same, they fail spectacularly at times but the owners always justify it somehow. I'm not saying that to be abrasive, but its just been my observation. More power to the folks who have the money and time to deal with things like that.
Meanwhile, the average 92 Honda Accord is on the road still with never a wrench turned on it.
Meanwhile, the average 92 Honda Accord is on the road still with never a wrench turned on it.
#94
Actually they had the timing covers off to change the cam phaser thingies (oh yeah, those have failed too, common problem on this engine) and when they put it back together, they left a ground wire off or loose. Supposedly when the ECU died and the coils died, they found a loose ground wire and said that's probably why the ECU and coils died in the first place.
Still broke, and it sucks. But the car is fun as hell and I love it. Despite the problems this car has, the C63 is the most reliable AMG Mercedes has ever made... The E and S class can be insane to repair out of warranty. My C class is a much simpler car with a lot less to break compared to those.
#95
It's interesting to see how people who own expensive vehicles like that will tolerate failures like that. Tesla's are the same, they fail spectacularly at times but the owners always justify it somehow. I'm not saying that to be abrasive, but its just been my observation. More power to the folks who have the money and time to deal with things like that.
Meanwhile, the average 92 Honda Accord is on the road still with never a wrench turned on it.
Meanwhile, the average 92 Honda Accord is on the road still with never a wrench turned on it.
#97
I get that, I'm just pondering to myseld how MSRP does not always have a linear relationship to reliability. I've been guilty of owning a couple cars like your C63, so I know how you feel about it
I'm not a fan of Corvettes, but for the money, they are pretty dead reliable and perform fairly well. I have to give GM some credit for that, its a sports car you could DD without much reservation.
I'm not a fan of Corvettes, but for the money, they are pretty dead reliable and perform fairly well. I have to give GM some credit for that, its a sports car you could DD without much reservation.
#98
I get that, I'm just pondering to myseld how MSRP does not always have a linear relationship to reliability. I've been guilty of owning a couple cars like your C63, so I know how you feel about it
I'm not a fan of Corvettes, but for the money, they are pretty dead reliable and perform fairly well. I have to give GM some credit for that, its a sports car you could DD without much reservation.
I'm not a fan of Corvettes, but for the money, they are pretty dead reliable and perform fairly well. I have to give GM some credit for that, its a sports car you could DD without much reservation.
#99
I heard people say that at mb/vw/bmw they literally spec out the materials/parts to last the warranty span on the car, and that's it.
As in, x part wasn't even designed to last more than 5 years/50k miles, or whatever their warranty spans are.
Look at old Mercedes', they run forever basically. They know how to design/build reliable cars.
As in, x part wasn't even designed to last more than 5 years/50k miles, or whatever their warranty spans are.
Look at old Mercedes', they run forever basically. They know how to design/build reliable cars.
#100
Well I'd like to back away from the argument a little bit, because 99% of the people I know who own cars like Audi S*, AMG * lease them for 24-36 months. The cars will, with some exceptions, get through that lease period with minimum routine or major maintenance. So for the original owner/lessee, the cars are rock solid AND have pretty phenomenal performance & luxury. Plus, for many people who buy/lease cars like this, it keeps them in the hottest **** every 2-3 years ... which is the whole point for some people.
So what I'm getting at is, the secondary market on these cars is pretty irrelevant anyway. The fact I'm even talking about how reliable one of those car is vs. a Honda/Toyota shows that I am but a poor prole
edit: what 18psi said.
So what I'm getting at is, the secondary market on these cars is pretty irrelevant anyway. The fact I'm even talking about how reliable one of those car is vs. a Honda/Toyota shows that I am but a poor prole
edit: what 18psi said.